Talk:Independence Hall/Archive 1

Featured article
When do we want to nominate this for featured article status? --evrik 13:42, 12 September 2006 (UTC)

Removal of Popular Culture section
I removed the Popular Culture section since it was really just glorified (well, not even glorified, just renamed) WP:TRIVIA. Mentioning that the subject of this article is in a video game, or is in a movie about the American Revolution, contributes nothing. Alphageekpa (talk) 11:55, 17 November 2007 (UTC)

Thoughts for Improvement
Marcsin 16:25, 26 October 2006 (UTC)
 * 1) Increase information for the history
 * 2) Links to Second Continental Congress
 * 3) If possible, usages of building between Revolution and Constitution
 * 4) Usages after Constitution
 * 5) When building was made national monument
 * 6) Events in the modern era - perhaps combine the Present Event section
 * 7) Improve the Protected area info-box
 * 8) Add section on architecture of the building itself. Size/floors/construction/etc.
 * 9) Do something with the pictures at the bottom of the page, Not all seem to belong to this article. Or at least modify how they are presented, they take up a lot of room for not a lot of value
 * 10) Find more Popular Culture/Trivia items to add. (please see WP:TRIVIA -- Alphageekpa (talk) 11:56, 17 November 2007 (UTC))

Original name
A good addition to the article might be to include the original name of the building: it obviously wasn't "Independence Hall" or "State House" when it was built. Maybe it was "Province House" or the "House of Assembly" (wild guesses). Indefatigable 20:14, 9 January 2006 (UTC)


 * Exists in introductory paragraph - it was built as the Pennsylvania State House. Alphageekpa (talk) 12:11, 17 November 2007 (UTC)

First Gay Rights Demonstration
It should be noted that on July 4, 1965 the very first organized gay and lesbian civil rights demonstration took place here. In those years before the Stonewall Rebellion (June, 1969) there were only a few dozen G/L/B/T groups in North America; they were known collectively as "The Homophile Movement." For the gay community this was an historic event. The practice of demonstrating in front of Independence Hall continued for the next four years, but Stonewall and the subsequent Gay Pride Parades in cities throughout the country replaced these Philadelphia demonstrations which were called "The Annual Reminder." Please note that several yards away from the entrance of this building is an official free standing bronze plaque, but up by the state of Pennsylvania, recognizing the historical importance of this site to the G/L/B/T community. Buddmar (talk) 00:04, 16 July 2008 (UTC)buddmar
 * Every participant in that demonstration was, of course, duly noted in the FBI's dossier on the subject... or, as they snickeringly called it at first, their "homo file". Turned out that Jedgar Hoover didn't think that was very funny, for some unknown reason. :\ Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? 00:19, 16 July 2008 (UTC)

Coordinates display incorrectly
When viewing this article from Safari and Firefox (on Mac OS X), the coordinate text appears to be being drawn twice in the same location, which makes the text unreadable. Tweisbach (talk) 05:13, 3 February 2009 (UTC)
 * Corrected. Appears to be a conflict between the 'geolinks-US-buildingscale' tag and the data in the infobox both populating coordinate data at the top of the article page.  I removed the tag, and it appears to have corrected the problem. Alphageekpa (talk) 10:27, 3 February 2009 (UTC)

Image Location
Perhaps it's just me, but it seems strange that the lead image in the article is an engraving and not an actual picture of Independence Hall. Thoughts? 151.199.251.79 (talk) 18:34, 14 August 2009 (UTC)

Importance
The Pennsylvania State House was where the two most important events in the history of the United States happened, and the adjoining two buildings, Congress Hall and the City Hall used as the United States Supreme Court building, were the nation's capital for ten years. I have added two templates, ranking the importance of this building in U.S. History as top, and of the whole story of the United States, high. Any comments? --DThomsen8 (talk) 22:39, 9 September 2009 (UTC)

Requested move
moved. --RegentsPark (talk) 22:21, 1 March 2010 (UTC) Independence Hall (United States) → Independence Hall — This is the primary topic, as it is hit considerably more than any other Independence Hall page, likely recieves most of the traffic from the disambiguation page (if the other page's hits are put together, they are still less than the disambiguation page), and this subject is titled "Independence Hall" on most other 'pedias. Discussion about moving Independence Hall to Independence Hall (disambiguation) in preparation for moving this has taking place here for several days Purplebackpack89  (Notes Taken)  (Locker) 21:02, 24 February 2010 (UTC)


 * Independence Hall → Independence Hall (disambiguation)


 * Discuss this at Talk:Independence Hall Purplebackpack89  (Notes Taken)  (Locker) 00:13, 25 February 2010 (UTC)
 * Support as nom Purplebackpack89  (Notes Taken)  (Locker) 21:02, 24 February 2010 (UTC)

About the building
I want to know more about the building itself, what about the construction, how big, what other rooms are there, items of interest, what about that clock, why did it take so long to build, and what changes has it undergone over the years? and show me more photos of the interior, please. How has it been conserved? The info about the signing of the Declaration of Independence, etc., is great but could be expanded on in another article. See the history of the U.S. Capitol bulding, white house, etc., for this type of content.Amity150 (talk) 04:09, 20 December 2009 (UTC)
 * It might interest you that to know that the clock on the 100 dollar bill is incorrectly drawn and uses "IV" whereas the real clock uses "IIII". The article for Roman numerals has an interesting section on clocks and Roman numerals. Jason Quinn (talk) 16:23, 30 March 2011 (UTC)

drop from wikiproject Protected areas
This is not a natural area, dropping from Wikiproject Protected areas. Adding to Wikiproject NRHP as it is main contributing property in NRHP-listed Independence Hall Historical Park. --Doncram (talk) 19:46, 16 January 2011 (UTC)
 * Protected Area infobox replaced with the NRHP infobox as contributing. Morgan Riley (talk) 18:48, 8 May 2011 (UTC)

NOT a National Historic Landmark, what kind of landmark is this?
Independence Hall is NOT a U.S. National Historic Landmark. See List of National Historic Landmarks in Pennsylvania for a complete list of those in the state, and for NHL sources. Independence Hall is a National Historical Park, maybe that is better than being a National Historic Landmark. However, the first paragraph of this article links to national landmark which then suggests that Independence Hall is either a U.S. National Historic Landmark or a U.S. National Natural Landmark (which it is not). Either this article, or the national landmark article, or both, ought to be revised somehow to remove this confusion. doncram (talk) 16:17, 20 November 2007 (UTC)


 * Probably fixed a while ago, but for the record of the talk page, it is specifically a "contributing property to the Independence National Historical Park National Historic Landmark District" (quite a mouthful). So it, in combination with a number other sites, structures, buildings, etc., it forms the national historic landmark, but is not one independently one on its own. Close though! Morgan Riley (talk) 01:11, 10 May 2011 (UTC)

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