Talk:Independent Socialist Party (Greece)

Speedy
I put a hangon tag on this page. First of all, i think, that putting a speedy tag just 5 minutes after the creation of a referenced article isn't really WP:AGF. Secondly, we should recognize that the party in question existed for a short period well before WWW. Thus the number of google hits would be expected to be low. Thirdly, notability can be asserted as the founder of the party was a major figure in the Greek labour movement at the time and was elected to the Senate. This is detailed in the reference. --Soman (talk) 13:09, 1 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Yes, the founder may be notable. A political party in a multiparty democracy that existed for mere months, and has no references (except the founder), and for which references can be found is profoundly un-notable. It might be the definition of non-notability. It appears to be a coatrack, if nothing else. Unless references are added (the current one is does not meet Notabiltity concerns) this should be merged and deleted.Capitalismojo (talk) 15:22, 2 July 2009 (UTC)
 * A note about google hits; prominent persons and notable organizations that existed before the world wide web do have hits on google if they are notable. Historians write about them and their importance, journalists refer to them, books mention their importance. That is why web citations are so important to WP: Verify. If for some reason one can't find references online you can still cite books on the subject. Unless of course they don't exist.Capitalismojo (talk) 15:22, 2 July 2009 (UTC)

Reference
The article reference goes to a brief biography of the founder. It only has one brief line mentioning the existence of this organization. It not a notable reference for this org. Capitalismojo (talk) 15:36, 2 July 2009 (UTC)
 * That reference actually makes me believe that the founder is far more notable than his several month political party. While Dimitris Stratis only has a handful of google (or bing) hits, those that do exist prove his notablity. Capitalismojo (talk) 15:36, 2 July 2009 (UTC)