Talk:Index of Oregon-related articles

What is the purpose?
What is the scope of this list supposed to be? I can see including any "of Oregon" or "in Oregon" type lists and articles, and the links to the categories and commons categories, but Wikipedia is not the World Almanac and I don't think this list should contain "adjacent states", for example. Why Adams-Onís Treaty and not Kalapuya Treaty? (I'm not suggesting we include that.) I tried to find some guidelines for this sort of thing and all I could come up with was here: List. Though I realize some overlap between categories and lists is useful, per Categories, lists, and navigational templates, if this is going to be some sort of catchall, I'm opposed to that. I believe we should keep its scope limited to an index format. In other words, topics the casual browser might be interested in finding, as if this were an index in a book. If we are missing any topics that can be created as categories, such as Category:Treaties of Oregon, we can redlink them and populate them as needed. In other words, there should be very few, if any, links to specific articles, just links to broader topic areas. Other opinions? Katr67 (talk) 22:32, 20 June 2008 (UTC)


 * I, too, have wondered what constitutes an Oregon-related topic. The state flower makes sense, as does anything specifically about Oregon.  But what about the Cascade Range or Great Basin?  They're mostly outside Oregon.  I had supposed that the article's creator was doing such an article for every state in a form already agreed to somewhere (but I didn't check).  —EncMstr (talk) 23:06, 20 June 2008 (UTC)


 * I've started cleaning this up to look more like the index I think it's intended to be, and removed all the redundant "of Oregon" stuff. Katr67 (talk) 23:15, 20 June 2008 (UTC)


 * I agree that this list could be a nice quick reference, but I think it's going to need a lot of maintenance to keep it pure and to the categorical directory it was no doubt intended to be. It reminds me of the original Yahoo model of categories. As I recall, it was one person's full-time job to maintain those categories. (At least she got to retire filthy rich...) --Esprqii (talk) 23:18, 20 June 2008 (UTC)


 * Just a note: The Adams-Onís Treaty of 1819 established the 42nd parallel north as the southern extent of the Oregon Country.  Buaidh (talk) 17:02, 24 June 2008 (UTC)

Great Seal of the State of Oregon
The official title of the Oregon state seal is the Great Seal of the State of Oregon. See the Governor's Archives Month Proclamation for an example. --Buaidh (talk) 14:36, 7 July 2008 (UTC)


 * I suspect the article is using the common name instead of the official name. I wouldn't expect anyone but a tour guide from the capital to use the official name.... —EncMstr (talk) 15:44, 7 July 2008 (UTC)

On the other hand, the Great Seal is the official signature of the State of Oregon, so it's not completely trivial. --Buaidh (talk) 16:03, 7 July 2008 (UTC)

Proposed merge of Lists of Oregon-related topics into this article
If you look at Category:Indexes of topics by U.S. state, Oregon is the only state with two items. The lists should just be folded into this article. --&mdash;  Rhododendrites talk  |  03:17, 4 January 2014 (UTC)


 * There is no compelling reason to merge. Just because other states don't have such lists is no reason to change Oregon's arrangement.  Most other states probably have no equivalent of Oregon (toponym) or Cannabis in Oregon, etc.  Obviously it would be nuts to try to merge those somewhere.  —EncMstr (talk) 04:00, 27 April 2014 (UTC)


 * I would support merger. We have been discussing "Lists of lists" pages at WP:SAL for a while, and there seems to be a growing consensus that we should use the word "Index" when the purpose of a page is navigation (as is the case with Lists of Oregon-related topics, and reserve the word "list" for informational lists (articles that use a listified format to present information).  One important distinction we are trying to clarify with this shift in wording... We are trying to better distinguish which pages are subject to content policies and guidelines like WP:Verifiability andWP:Reliable sources, etc...  and which are not. Lists (being informational) are subject to WP:V and other content policies and guidelines... Indexes (being purely navigational) are not. Blueboar (talk) 20:37, 10 May 2014 (UTC)