Talk:India (cat)

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Agreed, Ragib, this article is meaningless. Why not merge the list of presidential pets with list of "largest presidential bowel movements by weight"?? What? That page doesn't exist??? I'm sure someone will address this deficiency immediately... Surely, folks, Wikipedia is about meaningful information, not useless flotsam like this? Do we have lists of pets kept by other world leaders? Posthocergopropterhoc (talk) 17:06, 6 January 2009 (UTC)

Well, this meaningless entry has survived yet another AfD. I hope the people who voted keep will continue their support for the article by showing us *how* this can be expanded beyond the few sentences it has now. I'm waiting to see that. Thanks. --Ragib 03:30, 28 June 2006 (UTC)

Does anyone know why the cat was named India ?--71.163.67.245 18:39, 22 August 2006 (UTC)


 * Read the article. --Ragib 18:39, 22 August 2006 (UTC)

Added a Response in India to External Links. Should it be extended ?--71.163.73.45 20:43, 11 September 2006 (UTC)
 * He, He, I, for one take it as a complement they named a black cat India ;) --h y dka t 21:58, 1 October 2006 (UTC)
 * I think it's sad people would be offended by it. The joke, of course, is that Bush would almost certainly not be offended to know that 101 dogs had been named after him, so the "revenge" backfired. What people in India probably don't know is that India is historically a moderately common girl's name in the American South. I knew a girl in high school whose name was India Jane, and Ashley Wilkes's sister in Gone with the Wind was named India. —Angr If you've written a quality article... 16:37, 2 March 2008 (UTC)


 * This is a complete non sense, useless article. Please nominate it for AFD. --59.92.121.36 (talk) 13:09, 31 August 2012 (UTC)

Merge
This article has little scope to expand beyond the few sentences currently present. The presidential cats are not notable by themselves, so devoting a whole article on a cat is not necessary. Any information can be merged with List of United States Presidential pets, which lists other pets kept by US presidents. I do not see any proof that this particular cat has any notability by itself, other than being a presidential cat, and having a whitehouse.gov page on it seemingly written for kindergarteners. So, I propose merger of it into List of United States Presidential pets and making this into a redirect. --Ragib 10:11, 2 April 2007 (UTC)


 * I agree, merge this article. Has no information and only has two lines.  Gman124  talk  21:59, 24 April 2008 (UTC)


 * I totally agree, strong merge. Whatever next George W. Bush's tadpole!  Seth Whales (talk) 20:26, 26 April 2008 (UTC)


 * Oppose. The article looks fine to me; a merge to GWB is absurd as the article is overstuffed as it is, and the List page is targeted at a very brief summary, perhaps a sentence or two - which this article certainly is not. India may not be Socks or Buddy, but it's notable enough for me. --Gwern (contribs) 00:23 14 September 2008 (GMT)


 * Oppose per Gwern. --Pete Tillman (talk) 21:05, 26 September 2008 (UTC)


 * Merge. Rates a line in GWB.--Regents Park (sniff out my socks) 21:12, 26 September 2008 (UTC)


 * Merge – no brainer. What's next, an article on Tinker Belle?  Is this what we've come down to on Wikipedia? I vote for merging with the List.  The clear lack of content in this article is evidence enough that it shouldn't stand on its own.  AreJay (talk) 22:15, 26 September 2008 (UTC)


 * Merge But why was the discussion notice put on WT:IND ? -- gp pande  «talk»  16:04, 27 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Well, India (disambiguation) links to this. So definitely, this discussion is relevant to WT:IND-interested editors. --Ragib (talk) 19:32, 27 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Merge: ' Noteable ' with respect to Bush only. --  Tinu  Cherian  - 06:54, 29 September 2008 (UTC)


 * Merge with List of United States Presidential pets. What makes it notable to have a separate article? --KnowledgeHegemonyPart2 15:19, 1 October 2008 (UTC)


 * Merge or I'll nominate if for AfD, where the result will likely be merge anyway for the rationale provided by Tinu. VG &#x260E; 07:39, 3 October 2008 (UTC)


 * Merge No inherent notability, and scant coverage even in the context of being a pet of a notable owner. Edison (talk) 15:59, 24 October 2008 (UTC)


 * Oppose The article is well written, and has same (or even more) notability than Barney the dog. FixmanPraise me 15:25, 18 December 2008 (UTC)


 * Merge' What's next? Separate page for the pets of actors?  Or maybe athletes?  Nonpoint74 (talk) 19:43, 6 January 2009 (UTC)

I think we have a consensus about merging this article with List of US Presidential pets. In that case, I will merge it in a couple of days. --Ragib (talk) 06:58, 13 November 2008 (UTC)


 * Yes, merge with list of Presidential Pets and put a short mention in the GWB article if there is not one there already, but as the cat just died you might want to see if it's changed in the next few days before merging. davidwr/  (talk)/(contribs)/(e-mail)  15:50, 5 January 2009 (UTC)

have you no respect for the dead?--204.78.0.199 (talk) 16:25, 5 January 2009 (UTC)


 * Do the pets of the Queen of England or the President of Ireland or, perhaps more appropriately given the title, India's head of state, receive individual articles? The only reason there can be no consensus on this is that there are more than enough American editors to support this recent news story. --➨♀♂ Candlewicke STundefined 17:44, 5 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Don't merge with the list of Presidential Pets since that is a overview list, create a article something along the line of Presidential pets belonging to George Bush and then merge this article and barneys into a single one. Peachey88 (Talk Page 01:28, 7 January 2009 (UTC)


 * merge seriously, why is this even a debate? what has the cat done? do any of the other presidential pets have their own pages? if so, then this page may be warranted, but i doubt that they do. it's not warranted, the cat is in no way special, just cos it belonged to the president. if we have this page for this cat, we need to find out all the other famous people with pets and get pages made!!! 77.97.18.22 (talk) 22:07, 7 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Yes, Barney has one and I'm sure there's a few more. Peachey88 (Talk Page 00:39, 8 January 2009 (UTC)


 * Merge. No encyclopedia could have an article for a president's pet. --Lemur12 (talk) 05:09, 8 January 2009 (UTC)


 * Oppose, no merge - Presidential pets hold a certain amount of attention within the public's consciousness, as do the pets of monarchs, prime ministers, etc outside of the United States. Keep, along with Barney's article, etc. Coverage should be as thorough as possible. Scanlan (talk) 03:04, 8 January 2009 (UTC)


 * Definite merge! - My God! What next?! List of kitchen implements endorsed by George W. Bush? Seriously! --86.45.204.34 (talk) 21:37, 11 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Comment Thank goodness he's got a good retirement plan. The thought of former Presidents hawking wares on cable shopping channels sends a shudder down my spine.  davidwr/  (talk)/(contribs)/(e-mail)  00:30, 12 January 2009 (UTC)


 * Merge. this isn't worth having an extra page on wiki. It should be removed from disambiguation page also. What sense does it make to mix a cat's name with a country India. It should be merged. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Pradeepsinghhbti (talk • contribs) 06:15, 5 February 2009 (UTC)


 * Oppose. Several first pets have pages.  The George W. Bush article is already too large, so a merge doesn't make sense.  The List of Presidential pets doesn't have enough room for all the detail here.--Bkwillwm (talk) 05:51, 18 February 2009 (UTC)

The article has increased somewhat in size since most of the "merge" comments were made. However, this discussion is not really a on merger as all any so-called merger would do, either the the GWB page or the List of presidential pets page, is to delete this article in its entirety whilst making no changes to the article it is supposedly merged into. From some of the comments above, I wonder whether some of those those actually supporting a merge haven't seen the List of United States presidential pets page. It really is just a list with no more info other than species and breed. You can also see from the list that other pets of other presidents also have there own pages.

Therefore, I'm going to say we close this merger discussion on the grounds that, when it boils down to it, this is really about deletion. I am also removing the merger discussion notices at the top of the article. This is for the reasons outlined above, and it is not intended to prejudice any possible future AfD discussion (which would, of course, be expected to follow the correct AfD procedure). Hibbertson (talk) 12:16, 7 April 2009 (UTC)


 * Well said, let the poor cat rest in peace. WWGB (talk) 12:23, 7 April 2009 (UTC)

AFD announcement undone
An editor added a "this article is up for WP:AFD" announcement without starting an AFD. I undid the edit and notified the user that he forgot to finish the process. FYI, the last AFD was in late October. Although not required, by convention, at least 3 months should separate AFDs. davidwr/ (talk)/(contribs)/(e-mail)  19:23, 8 January 2009 (UTC)
 * I'd say that deadline has passed now. Can't you count? --86.45.204.34 (talk) 21:39, 11 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Well clearly, you can't! Late October + 3 months = late January. WWGB (talk) 23:26, 11 January 2009 (UTC)

Uncle Milty
Can someone please sort out User:Uncle Milty who is making extremely discouraging statements, removing appropriate tags without due reason, violating 3RR and then threatening to block me over at the president pet list page? --86.45.204.34 (talk) 00:17, 12 January 2009 (UTC)
 * This is the wrong forum. This is the page to discuss the article India (cat).  If you have issues with another editor, take it up with him on his user-talk page or go to one of the mediation forums.  See Dispute resolution for more details on how to use Wikipedia's dispute-resolution forums.  davidwr/  (talk)/(contribs)/(e-mail)  00:28, 12 January 2009 (UTC)

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