Talk:Indiana Pacers

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Where does the team get its name from? What is a pacer?

Probably from the pace cars used at the Indianapolis 500. There was an existing WHA team called the Indiana Racers, that may have been an influence as well. RickK 10:15, Nov 20, 2004 (UTC)

Actually, a pacer is a horse, and this is where they got their name. When the Pacers went to the Finals, a local news station did a piece on the history of the name. You can see the definition of pacer here: http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=pacer

the name "Pacers"
The last comment is corrent. It's named after the race horse term "pacer" although the pace car connection for the 500 is also often cited. But the horse term comes from (I believe) the early ownership also had a stake in the race hroses that used to race at the Indiana State Fairgrounds - where the team first played its home games.

Pacing is a gait used in Harness Horse Racing, which was very popular at the time. Too bad the logo doesn't reflect this. Would be much nicer than a generic "P". — Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.157.244.141 (talk) 22:46, 28 November 2013 (UTC)

Main rivals?
While the introduction of a "main rivals" section is an interesting concept, truth be told it's probably far too subjective to be used as a legitimate addition to the article, in my opinion. In the opinion of this lifelong Pacers fan, the Pistons and Celtics are the only two teams on that list that are easy locks for that distinction. It's true they had a heated rivalry with the Knicks in the mid-'90s, but with the decline of that team, the Knicks' current status on that list is questionable. And while the Bulls and Cavs are both Central Division opponents, I wouldn't consider either of them to be a rival, just based on a lack of playoff history between the clubs. And it could be argued that the Heat deserve inclusion on the list due to their status as an Eastern Conference championship contender the same way the Pacers are, and the 2004 second-round playoff series in which Miami nearly came back to stun the top-seeded Pacers. The Miami Heat and Indiana Pacers also had/have a bit of a rivalry as well. It began in 2011 when the Pacers started becoming competitive once again; it was also the year after LeBron James signed with the Miami Heat. Both teams began competing continuously for the Eastern Conference, comparatively to the Pacers Knicks rivalry in the late 90's and early 2000's. In any event, everyone will have a different opinion on the topic, because rivalries can't be "proven" by fact. ekedolphin July 6, 2005 07:54 (UTC)

The External Link to Pacers Digest keeps being removed?
I have noticed once again that the External Link to the Indiana Pacers fan forum "Pacers Digest" is continually being removed.

Facts, rather than supposition, indicate that the forum "Pacers Digest" has largely become limited to legacy members and has fallen from public usage. Its core usership is only a few individuals who seem to use the site for personal posturing, politics, and an admin who regards it as their personal domain to express whatever opinions they like, in any manner they choose, regardless of the site's rules for permissable behavior. Recent topics have included slandering Indianapolis as a blanket "racist city", mental health and disparaging remarks on the subject, discussions of Nazism in the United States, and efforts to ban or block members expressing displeasure with the current state of the team. As of 2017, and for a long period of time, Pacers Digest was refusing new members, leading to the site being bypassed in favor of newer and more accessible options like 8 Points 9 Seconds, Indycornrows, and Pacers Subreddit. Although that membership allowance has since been restored in response to the site's decline, new members are only sporadically approved and the site remains largely exclusionary and insular.

Retired numbers section
Retired numbers are obviously notable. The three listed numbers (45 for Rik Smits, 7 for Jermaine O'Neal and 10 for Jeff Foster) with the accompanying text "Though not officially retired, the following numbers have not been reissued by the team" is misleading and inherently non-notable. First of all, the team doesn't issue a number, players choose their numbers. That no player in the past year has chosen to take number 10 means absolutely nothing. It's more interesting that no player has chosen to wear 7 or 45, but still does not mean there's anything to it, or that the team is preventing people from wearing them, or that the team has plans to retire the numbers. There are surely no plans to retire the number of Jeff Foster, who while a good guy, was not a marquee player worthy of such an honor. A bigger case could be made that Smits or O'Neal might be honored with a retired jersey number, but such an action would be a major surprise, and is certainly not likely or imminent. Unless sources can be found saying that these numbers are not being issued in anticipation of their being retired, any listing of them implies something that is not verifiable or rooted in fact. 208.40.242.41 (talk) 18:22, 25 May 2013 (UTC)

I forgot to mention that there are many other numberw which "haven't been worn again since ______ player left the team." Yet those are not listed here, so there's no reason for the others to be either. 208.40.242.41 (talk) 18:26, 25 May 2013 (UTC)

Also note that 529 for Bobby Leonard and Melvin Simon are banners that hang, and not retired numbers.. I will be removing them.—Bagumba (talk) 06:28, 19 June 2016 (UTC)

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Only NBA Championships should be listed in Infobox
Among Wikipedia pages of all current NBA franchises that were once ABA teams, the pages for the Pacers and Nets are the only ones that list ABA championships under the championship category in the infobox. This isn’t listed on team pages for franchises like the Nuggets, for instance, nor the Spurs, most notably, and only seems like a way for teams with zero NBA championships to try to save face by hometown Wikipedia editors. While it certainly is acceptable to discuss the ABA history of the franchise within the main article, including those successes, it seems inappropriate to list those under the “Championships” section of the infobox, especially since most other NBA teams that were formerly ABA franchises don’t do this. For the sake of consistency and clarity, only NBA championships should be listed in the infobox. The only other option would be to include the same information under all other formerly ABA team pages for consistency, but it would be less confusing to stick with just NBA championships listed for all current teams. Maximilian77 (talk) 04:31, 14 December 2023 (UTC)


 * There is a fairly simple reason for that. Of the former ABA teams now in the NBA, only the Pacers and Nets won an ABA championship. That said, of course the championship entry in the infobox should show the major league championships that a team has won. For current NBA teams, that can include ABA and NBL championships. Alvaldi (talk) 19:15, 24 June 2024 (UTC)