Talk:Indiana University of Pennsylvania/Archive 1

Ranking Dispute
I recently edited the Indiana University of Pennsylvania ranking to reflect the most recent U.S. News ranking, which clearly says it is a Tier 4 National University, and which should not be confused with the ranking for Indiana University in Bloomington, Indiana. Can whoever reverted my edit please explain why and on what grounds they did so? Thanks.--Lhakthong (talk) 22:08, 20 May 2010 (UTC)
 * The same edit was made to the Pennsylvania State System of Higher Education page and with it the category of ""Universities-Doctoral (North)", which does not exist as a category in the US News rankings. Additionally, the reference for this ranking on the IUP page is incorrect.--Lhakthong (talk) 22:27, 20 May 2010 (UTC)
 * Considering there has been no response, I have made the edits to accurately reflect US News rankings as reported by the agency itself--Lhakthong (talk) 17:57, 15 June 2010 (UTC)
 * Anonymous edits are being made by the same user here and on the Pennsylvania State System of Higher Education page that repeatedly delete edits cited with verifiable sources and add specific information otherwise not available -- "Tier 4 in the National Universities Categories by US News", which is the exact ranking given by US News and can be found on the web publicly. The editor thus maintains vague information, "one of the nation’s top national universities" and has a non-third party source (the university itself) as its citation.  On the other page, Pennsylvania State System of Higher Education, repeated edits by this anonymous user are nonsense and entirely inconsistent with US News Rankings.  I will request the pages are locked to anonymous editors if such edits continue.  I admit I might have used the rollback function hastily, but these anonymous reverts are done without explanation delete verifiable information.--Lhakthong (talk) 04:00, 30 June 2010 (UTC)
 * Considering the anonymous IP address is located in Indiana, Pennsylvania, the edits could be a violation of the conflict of interest guidelines].--Lhakthong (talk) 04:15, 30 June 2010 (UTC)

Bruce Graham
There are a couple problems with Bruce Graham in the notable alum section. 1: Redirects to the wrong person. 2: Anastasia is a 20th Century Fox movie, not a Disney movie as many believe. Making the change. Tumdertine5 (talk) 00:59, 8 August 2009 (UTC)

Robert E. Cook
Robert E. Cook needs a disambiguation page (the link to Robert E. Cook goes to the wrong person). More information is needed, for example, sports teams (Bears and Indians), notable faculty (if any!), notable alumni (again, if any!), etc..
 * The Robert E. Cook Honors College link is correct. I attend the Robert E. Cook Honors College.  Bubblesort (talk) 06:57, 9 October 2008 (UTC)
 * This page needs to shy away from references relevent only to those from the Allegheny region and avoid references to trivial bar fights relevent only to those in the Indiana, Pa region. Also, why does the section about Name Confusion contain information about a completely different school, namely, California University of Pennsylvania.

I'm kind of new to contributing to Wikipedia though, so I'm kind of reluctant to just delete it. What do you guys think? Bubblesort (talk) 06:57, 9 October 2008 (UTC)
 * I agree that we need to shy away from small town gossip. The Campus Issues section is out of date by at least 2 years.  I'm a Junior here and I haven't heard about those issues since I was a freshman.  There are more current issues to talk about, for example, we have new dorms that everybody hates, cutbacks in the number of RAs, rumors of corruption involving RAs and the office of student conduct, and just last month IUP implemented an extremely controversial smoking ban that is unenforceable, and I have a few things I'd like to say about this guy down the hall who plays his music too loud... well, I think you see where I'm going with this.  Campus Issues is inherently biased and not encyclopedic in tone.  They are issues only from some individuals personal POV.  On top of that, the issues I just mentioned will not be current or meaningful anymore next year.  Is this an encyclopedia or a newspaper?  I would like to delete the entire campus issues sub section.  Bubblesort (talk) 06:58, 9 October 2008 (UTC)

Location?
Why is the school listed as rural? 15k students in a suburban setting is hardly rural. Westminster is rural, its in the middle of amishland. DoomBringer 03:06, 10 March 2006 (UTC)
 * It is properly listed as "small town." Suburban is a place like Monroeville. --Hepcat748 (talk) 01:07, 21 January 2008 (UTC)


 * I don't know the legal status, but this place certainly feels rural, LOL. I'm a student at IUP.  We have very small town around the campus that could possibly be considered suburban, but beyond that it's rural.  If the university weren't here I doubt that they would even have any jobs in this small town.  We're in the middle of nowhere.  Over the summer this place is like a desolate ghost town. Bubblesort (talk) 06:41, 9 October 2008 (UTC)

Power Plant Pollution
The information in this section is preety much trivial information presented by a user who allways violates WP:POV, WP:POINT, and WP:NOT. All of the claims are unsourced, and show no to little relation to the university, other then the users point about their problems with the power plant. Unless sourc3ed and their can mbe shown that their is some kind of direct relationahip between the univerisy and the poweplant can be said then i have no problem with removing the entire section, on the basis of POV and NOT vios. --Boothy443 | trácht ar 05:16, 19 May 2006 (UTC)
 * The claim about the two smokestacks is idiotic. Only one of those is active, and the oncampus plant generates all of the university's power and steam needed.  The claims about the Homer City plant is pretty biased, and I'm removing the "excessive" claim.  DoomBringer (not signed in atm) 71.31.71.154 17:11, 27 May 2006 (UTC)

Remove "See Also Homer City Plant"?
Give me a good reason why we should have a link to this other article about a power plant, when it is mentioned in passing and isn't related to the university in any way? Again, this is DoomBringer, but I'm too lazy to sign in at the moment. DoomBringer 17:18, 27 May 2006 (UTC)
 * I see no problem with removing it, the user was on some kind of campaing, as can be seen by the edit history. Feel free to remove it. --Boothy443 | trácht ar 07:22, 28 May 2006 (UTC)

Possible usurpation of claim to the Indiana University name and article
Editors of this Indiana University of Pennsylvania article might want to join the debate over at Talk:Indiana University Bloomington where a proposal is afoot to usurp the Indiana University article to be substantially replaced with the current content of the Indiana University Bloomington article. The current Indiana University disambiguation page would be replaced by a Indiana University System article. The Indiana University System article would no longer be a polite correction/reminder redirect to the current Indiana University article. I have been vigorously defending the current set of articles and the current set of article titles. My A#1 main objection actually does not involve conflicts with Indiana University of Pennsylvania (although the dismantling of proper resolution of that ambiguity is among my lesser objections to the proposal), but rather the fact that there is no entity in reality named “Indiana University System” and that Wikipedia should not contrive a fictional name that is promulgated as purported fact. You Indiana University of Pennsylvania editors might be able to bring additional lines of reasoning to the table as well based upon your separate interests. —optikos 15:34, 30 August 2006 (UTC)

Pictures
I'm a little unclear as to what images are able to be used. But if someone has a few photographs of campus or buildings that they took themselves, how about adding a few thumbnails? Things like the library, the Oak Grove, the stadium, one of the entrances, etc. I'm an alum living overseas, so the campus isn't accessible to me now; otherwise I'd do it. SolitaryThrush 12:50, 31 October 2006 (UTC)

Fair use rationale for Image:IUP logo.gif
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Golf Record
9 July 2008 Someone has an inserted a sub-section for athletics giving special praise to a recent golf team. No other teams record is mentioned. I'm not sure this should remain. Your thoughts? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Sjrplscjnky (talk • contribs) 17:24, 9 July 2008 (UTC)

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Teaching with Wikipedia Workshop at CMU (Aug 15)
Editors interested in this article may find the Teaching with Wikipedia Workshop that will take place at CMU on Aug 15 of interest. This workshop is open to general public, and is a joint imitative of CMU and Pitt). There will be another workshop held at Pitt in the Fall as well. It will cover how to include Wikipedia in one's course (WP:SUP) and also how to become a Campus Ambassadors. Pennsylvania has currently only one ambassador (myself) and it would be great if we could recruit at least several more. Ambassadors help course instructors, showing them how Wikipedia works, and interact with students. Many current ambassadors come from the body of students, faculty and university staff; it is a fun adventure, and adds to one resume/CV, to boot :) If it sounds interesting, feel free to ask me any questions, or to come to the workshop. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus&#124; talk 20:32, 9 August 2011 (UTC)

Historic image
I've just uploaded this historic image of the then State Normal School from an 1888 yearbook. Feel free to use it as seen fit. Yearbooks prior to 1923 (e.g. these at Internet Archive) are great sources of historic Public Domain imagery. Cheers, --Animalparty! (talk) 08:36, 22 December 2015 (UTC)

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