Talk:Indie sleaze

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This Article is DEEPLY inaccurate- indie sleaze has NEVER been the name of this movement until children on tiktok who were never part of it labeled it as such. This subculture has many labels- on tumblr it was called as Soft Grunge but it’s generally considered a subsection of hipster. I do not think it’s appropriate to title it as some silly little tiktok name that originated after that fact and makes me doubt the integrity and knowledge of these editors. 2601:B010:9AB:7C00:3192:E755:1650:DBE9 (talk) 20:53, 4 April 2024 (UTC)


 * I want to add that aesthetic subculture topics are a tricky subject and should not be taken lightly. They are a very important part of culture, influenced so many people and should absolutely be documented but with respect and accuracy towards the origins and original movements. 2601:B010:9AB:7C00:3192:E755:1650:DBE9 (talk) 20:55, 4 April 2024 (UTC)
 * Hipster (contemporary subculture) and soft grunge have their own separate articles. This article is titled "indie sleaze" because it is specifically discussing what the term indie sleaze refers to. Its relation to the hipster subculture is discussed, and its relation to soft grunge is discussed on the soft grunge article. The three terms do not mean the same thing, they are related, but as far as I can find, there aren't any WP:RELIABLESOURCES referring to the three terms as synonyms, so conflating them is unfounded. Issan Sumisu (talk) 09:52, 5 April 2024 (UTC)