Talk:Indigenous peoples in Canada/Archive 2

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List of peoples
Can a separate list article be started named Notable Aboriginal People of Canada and then the main characters added to this article in prose instead of listing format?SriMesh | talk  03:58, 11 September 2009 (UTC)

See comments for side bar ...here and here

as for list of people ..i say any help to cleaning up the article is good Buzzzsherman (talk) 06:45, 11 September 2009 (UTC)


 * There is already the List of First Nations people, not to be confused with List of First Nations peoples, but it contains several errors as it includes Inuit and Métis. There is a List of Inuit but it contains is basically for all Inuit/Eskimo. I've been working on the List of First Nations people off Wikipedia but there are several duplicates and Category:First Nations people also includes some US people as well. What I would suggest is that until there are three proper lists, List of First Nations people, List of Canadian Inuit List of Canadian Métis people the notable people section just be turned into a see also with links to Category:First Nations people, Category:Canadian Inuit people and Category:Métis people. Enter CambridgeBayWeather, waits for audience applause, not a sausage 14:26, 11 September 2009 (UTC)
 * Began setting list to prose... and adding a citation for every person in the article.

Removed...Harriet Nahanee, Nuu-chah-nulth, activist, residential school survivor...not because she isn't notable as she has a wiki article, however this Aboriginal peoples in Canada article is very very very long, and perhaps the listing should be culled in comparison to others who are noted. Please re-add if one wishes to... Will  make further notes like this as I go on, then I will tie all the prose together when finished adding the folks in sentences.

As perhaps...Kashtin was a Canadian folk rock duo comprised of Innu Claude McKenzie and Florent Vollant may be another of the deletions from this article proper. SriMesh | talk  03:08, 3 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Removed Lorraine Peter, Gwich’in, politician, as above, IMHO, this is just as the article is very long.
 * (If you come along and disagree, re-add as prose with a citation to the article.)SriMesh |  talk  03:25, 3 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Me again, removed Tecumseh, Shawnee, general was noted as Native Americans in the United States leader of the Shawnee and a large tribal confederacy that opposed the United States during Tecumseh's War and the War of 1812. He grew up in the Ohio country during the American Revolutionary War and the Northwest Indian War where he was constantly exposed to warfare.  There may be in fact historical Canadian aboriginal peoples...Big Bear Chief Whitecap - Wapahaska or Almighty Voice when they get article written about them or more from this list Native Political Leaders (96).SriMesh |  talk  03:59, 3 October 2009 (UTC)
 * As above...removed Eva Aariak, Premier of Nunavut SriMesh | talk  04:34, 3 October 2009 (UTC)
 * From the section on Inuit peoples.... removed Leona Aglukkaq, politician, current Federal Minister of Health... as above SriMesh |  talk  04:57, 3 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Removed Nakasuk, founder of Iqaluit failed to find reference.... :-(  SriMesh |  talk  23:01, 3 October 2009 (UTC)
 * I randomly added images of a few of the persons mentioned. Chose the images which were not copyrighted, which did not need fair use image rationale templates...used those which were free to use in articles easily. Those images chosen can be changed to whatever another editor would like to use, just stated how, why I used the images chosen. SriMesh |  talk  16:48, 5 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Next section now removed... François Beaulieu, chief of the Yellowknife tribe ... cannot find a reliable source or huge notability in comparison. Working on it in my sandbox to avoid edit conflict, then will add here.SriMesh |  talk  18:39, 5 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Me again pruned out.... as above....Lorna Docken, Vice-President and interim President of Métis Nation – Saskatchewan

Wally Firth, first Aboriginal to win a seat in the House of Commons Shelly Glover, Member of Parliament for Saint Boniface, Manitoba ...SriMesh | talk  21:21, 5 October 2009 (UTC)
 * And again pruning... Audrey Poitras, president of the Métis Nation of Alberta Mary Richard, activist and politician Nick Sibbeston, former Premier and current Senator for the Northwest Territories Charlotte Small, explorer Tony Whitford, Commissioner of the Northwest Territories  SriMesh |  talk  22:38, 5 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Removed Kashtin was a folk rock duo comprised of Innu Claude McKenzie and Florent Vollant.  Robbie Robertson, Mohawk, musician, singer-songwriter, and guitarist is best known for his membership in The Band. Shanawdithit was the last recorded surviving member of the Beothuk people of Newfoundland. Inuit-Paul Okalik was the first Premier of Nunavut whose "dream was to help his people in their dealings with the Canadian justice system."  Ann Meekitjuk Hanson is the Commissioner of Nunavut as well as civil servant, broadcaster, journalist and author. Alootook Ipellie was an illustrator and writer who told the stories of the Inuit people in print.  SriMesh |  talk  04:08, 7 October 2009 (UTC)

Before GA review
I may consider doing a GA review here, but i thought I would raise two issues before it gets to that point, that will improve the chances of it passing. Before I do, I should say that the article is already an impressive assembly of knowledge.
 * First, it is missing a major section, alluded to in the lead, but not really covered in the article: the political and legal status of first nations and their rights, generally, and with respect to land. This should be a high-level section, of equal importance to "History" and "Culture", the current two main headings. This section would address such points as:
 * What treaties exist?
 * What self government exists? How is representation organised?
 * What identity and rights is/are recognised by the constitution, treaties or law?
 * Do Aboriginal peoples have politically organisation(s) or movement(s) and what has been their effects?

I understand that the current article is a top-level summary article, so I am not suggesting all these need to be covered in detail- they do need to be summarised. I hope this is of assistance, despite making work for editors :-) hamiltonstone (talk) 03:52, 18 September 2009 (UTC)
 * Second, the referencing needs to be improved. There are lots of weblinks that do not state the publisher of the website, nor a retrieval date, for instance.

Buzzzsherman (talk) 04:03, 18 September 2009 (UTC).
 * Yes you are right ...it should be there..but this will take time ,,maybe a hold on Ga review should be added,,,i am the one that put it up for GA  review...and see lots still needs to be done..on the side bar there is info ther i will collect it and make a sub aticle here...TKs for your input (i do not have much experience in GA reviews),,,,,,i would guess first nations should be on hold to for same reason,,

--JUST FYI before you add alot of info-guys i helped write the article The Canadian Crown and First Nations, Inuit and Métis that You mention here Buzzz and put in your nice template. That article covers centuries of interaction with the government of Canada and mentions (with wiki links) the  treaties, case law and the Indian act and most other Political topics. It was decided long ago to make that article because of the vastness of the topic. It was onces all here and was moved on a split recommendation if i remember well. 174.115.165.184 (talk) 04:26, 18 September 2009 (UTC)


 * Yeah, I was wondering if there might be a backstory along those lines. That looks like it would contain at least some of the relevant info, so would eliminate the need for some of the work, as well as providing a 'main article' link. thanks AnonIP! cheers hamiltonstone (talk) 04:37, 18 September 2009 (UTC)
 * Began expanding the first few references using Cite templates as was started for many of them. SriMesh |  talk  03:41, 19 September 2009 (UTC)


 * Ok have added more info with new refs.... But not to much as per above discussion.
 * What treaties exist?
 * What self government exists? How is representation organised?
 * What identi# 2 Politics and Do Aboriginal peoples have politically organisation(s) or movement(s) and what has been their effects?

2 Politics
 * 2.1 Treaties
 * 2.2 Indian Act and Bill C-31
 * 2.3 Health Policy
 * 2.4 Political Organization
 * o 2.4.1 Name controversy

and pls SriMesh double check my ref... Ps is there a better name for section???

Buzzzsherman (talk) 03:15, 29 September 2009 (UTC)


 * It is wonderful to see those sections added to the article.

SriMesh | talk  03:08, 3 October 2009 (UTC)


 * tks SriMesh ..yes this article is pretty well done

... 174.115.165.184(y he has no user name is beyond me hint hint) and I have started to tackle the expansion of the Métis people (Canada) article pls fell free to jump in at any time :) pls pls. 174.115.165.184 added most of the content ..i am helping with wording, references, pictures etc... Buzzzsherman (talk) 08:27, 3 October 2009 (UTC)

Second GA review - Oct 13, 2009
OK guys i have put it back up for GA review and informed Nikkimaria about it...so hope all will be ok ..if anything found wrong during review...will fix on the spot to pass GA process. Good article nominations

as for charts i will make a toggle [hide] for them in html but this will take some time ..i have lots of work for the next few weeks

as for FA level lets do one thing at a time...I will readup on FA level stuff after we get GA Buzzzsherman (talk) 03:26, 14 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Sounds good by me, my goodness, you are already thinking FA!?!?! Coool.  Well, I will peek here and there to help with GA, was called away for a bit.  SriMesh |  talk  04:15, 14 October 2009 (UTC)

Removed text
Removed ... The Métis homeland also includes parts of the northern United States (specifically Montana, North Dakota, and northwest Minnesota). SriMesh | talk  02:30, 18 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Reason... pertains to the U.S.A. not CA


 * WOW it looks good ....It took some time but you got the size down.....So whats next?

Buzzzsherman (talk) 04:20, 18 October 2009 (UTC)

Introduced Template:Rp
Introduced Template:Rp (Information at Template:Rp/doc ) for usage when a book resource is used multiple times with different pages being accessed for each citation.SriMesh | talk  23:08, 18 October 2009 (UTC)
 * so cool you sited the page from a book reference i added...did you run to the library to check it??? LOL no really how did you know the page etc...Buzzzsherman (talk) 03:23, 19 October 2009 (UTC)