Talk:Indo-Caribbeans

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Merger
I see no reason to merge the articles - could you explain why you think this is a good idea? Thanks. Guettarda 14:38, 31 January 2007 (UTC)

Most Indo-Carribeans are from either Trinidad or Guyana - It occured to me that it might make sense to merge Indo-Guyanese with Indo-Carribean since the article covers little that does not also apply to Indo-Guyanese. Especially as the Indo-Guyanese entry covers nothing that isn't already said in Indo-Carribean except for the list of notables. --JamesTheNumberless 15:34, 6 February 2007 (UTC)

Few citations
This article needs more work and inline citations. Some of it sound like someone talking off the top of their head,, without reference to any written material.Starbwoy (talk) 01:35, 26 September 2013 (UTC)

Indians are decendents of Africans by writing this article you are doing what imperialists did you are dividing Africans — Preceding unsigned comment added by 149.254.181.204 (talk) 03:04, 14 January 2014 (UTC)

List of persons
The list of persons does not name any criteria for a listing, and is unsourced. Currently it's just like a category listing, in fact it offers less information than Category:Indo-Caribbean and its sub-categories. I suggest outsourcing the names to a list article (such as List of Indo-Trinidadians and Tobagonians). Or just deleting it. Kind regards, Grueslayer 07:24, 13 July 2020 (UTC)


 * Support proposal. I'm fine with deleting it per WP:IRRELEVANT. I'm really not sure of what it's supposed to convey about the average Indo-Caribbeans, a member of a minority demographic. Iryna Harpy (talk) 10:07, 13 July 2020 (UTC)

Article Name
I'm not aware of anyone in the Caribbean calling West Indians of (East) Indian descent "Indo-Caribbeans". Granted, that's in part because we tend to focus on people in their countries -- so Indo-Trinidadians / Indian Trinidadians and Indo-Guyanese / Indian Guyanese sound more like things than "Indo-Caribbeans" -- but I suspect it's primarily because we never use the word "Caribbean" as a noun for a person from the Caribbean, and so we never pluralise it. We tend to just call people "Indians" or "East Indians". See, as an illustrative example, a document from one of the two Caribbean countries with (absolutely and proportionately) the most East Indians, Trinidad and Tobago's 2011 Population and Housing Demographic Report. A word search in that document turns up many results for "East Indian", but none for "Indo", "Indian-" or "Indian Trinidadian".

Is anyone aware of where those terms come from? The US, Canada or the UK, maybe? ("The Indo-Caribbean Times" seems to have been Canadian.) If they're not of good provenance, I suggest we increase the prominence of the terms used by those people (and their neighbours) for themselves relative to terms preferred by others.

~ Hairouna (talk) 02:42, 4 January 2021 (UTC)
 * Funny, just a few days ago I had a discussion with friends (all from Trinidad, which might make a difference) about the question when the term "West Indian" is used, and when the term "Caribbean". Outcome was that "Caribbean" is a term generally used by people with a higher education, and that "West Indies" is a popular suffix for mail addresses to make sure Trinidad is not mixed up with Trinidad, Venezuela. Well, that's original research and not of relevance for Wikipedia. A lemma name needs to be conventional, and if in doubt external sources need to prove it is more conventional than others. Kind regards, Grueslayer 07:33, 4 January 2021 (UTC)

You have Trinidadian friends who use "Caribbean" as a noun for a person from the Caribbean and pluralise "Caribbean"? Or were they talking about "Caribbean" vs "West Indian" as adjectives?

For what it's worth, I'd say the split is more generational than educational, though I guess people with lots of American and Canadian influence might also favour "Caribbean" over "West Indian" since, without cricket and the historical connections of the UK, people in those places tend to confusion when they hear the terms "West Indies" or "West Indian".

As for the lemma name (is that a Wikipedia term for article name?): do documents like the Demographic Report that I cited above work? Also, does that work both ways? Do we need external sources to prove that "Indo-Caribbeans" is more conventional than others, or is it presumptively more conventional since it's the current name? ~ Hairouna (talk) 16:01, 4 January 2021 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 5 September 2021
Made changes to terminology that is more inclusive of multiple groups with Indo Caribbean culture. AryaanR (talk) 18:03, 5 September 2021 (UTC)
 * Red question icon with gradient background.svg Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. &#8209;&#8209; El Hef  ( Meep? ) 19:39, 5 September 2021 (UTC)

East Indian life in the Caribbean
Girl 69.160.102.12 (talk) 00:41, 9 November 2022 (UTC)