Talk:Inductively coupled plasma mass spectrometry

Untitled
Moved ICP-AES content to it's own page, as it's a different technique.

Request
I noticed this page has a lot of plagiarized text. Can we work together to fix this, or does someone with expertise want to take up the task of rewriting? saintvip (talk) 16:06, 23 November 2020 (UTC)

Request
Can anyone please give a brief explanation of how a sample is measured? The plasma-to-ms in the intro is too brief, and the full explanation too lengthy. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 192.38.9.39 (talk) 09:20, 29 June 2010 (UTC)
 * A sample is prepared in liquid form. A flow of gas, applied to the sample, converts the sample to an aerosol form. A plasma torch is then applied to the aerosol which ionizes the atoms. Mass spectrometry is then performed on the ionized atoms. Thintommy 14:02, 21 September 2015 (UTC)

Question
Does the sample being measured have to be in liquid form? So if a sample fo a metal alloy was being measured would it have to be dissolved in acid first? Thanks. OAP boba 08:18, 24 November 2006 (UTC)
 * Samples are normally liquids. Solids can generally be dissolved in acids or by other means to produce liquids. However solids can be analyzed directly by laser ablation. A pulsed laser, diected at the surface of the solid, produces a plume of material which is then carried into the plasma to produce ions.
 * ...or an electrically conductive solid can be introduced by spark erosion. Weasley one (talk) 11:25, 23 December 2011 (UTC)

Dynamic Reaction Cell
The DRC page has been tagged as needing a clean-up for some time. Anybody over here want to give it a shot?--SteveMtl 15:43, 3 May 2007 (UTC)

Merge dynamic reaction cell with ICP-MS
Dynamic Reaction Cell is a related short article with cleanup needs. A merge could help set that information with the context of this article. Comments? --Kkmurray 02:17, 16 June 2007 (UTC)
 * Merged, but article still needs refs and cleanup.--Kkmurray 17:44, 27 June 2007 (UTC)

Rename (de-Acronym)
See WP:NAME and WP:ACRONYM. The main issue is whether ICP-MS is "almost exclusively known only by its acronym" (emphasis added). I am arguing that it is known by both so the acronym should be spelled out. This will essentially be a swap of redirect and content between the existing ICP-MS and Inductively coupled plasma mass spectrometry. --Kkmurray 04:13, 29 August 2007 (UTC)

Requested move
Request is here: WP:RM  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Kkmurray (talk • contribs) 04:42, 31 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Additional rationale: ICP disambiguates to article Inductively coupled plasma, ICP-AES redirects to Inductively coupled plasma atomic emission spectroscopy. In this scheme, ICP-MS should redirect (remembering to sign this time). --Kkmurray 13:50, 31 August 2007 (UTC)

This article has been renamed as the result of a move request. --Stemonitis 07:50, 5 September 2007 (UTC)

It is also of importance to notify that there are other types of detectors conected to the ICP, that is not metioned here. Like the SFMS and other. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 213.88.172.186 (talk) 14:11, 12 June 2008 (UTC)

WikiProject class rating
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Info about the tech of ICP-AES....
--222.64.223.221 (talk) 12:25, 20 June 2010 (UTC)
 * http://scholar.google.com.hk/scholar?hl=en&q=allintitle%3A+%22ICP-AES%22&btnG=Search&as_sdt=2000&as_ylo=&as_vis=0

--222.64.223.221 (talk) 12:27, 20 June 2010 (UTC)
 * http://scholar.google.com.hk/scholar?hl=en&q=allintitle%3A+inductively+coupled+plasma+atomic+emission+spectrometry&btnG=Search&as_sdt=2000&as_ylo=&as_vis=0

Accuracy and precision
--222.64.223.221 (talk) 12:29, 20 June 2010 (UTC)
 * http://scholar.google.com.hk/scholar?hl=en&q=allintitle%3A+ICP-AES+accuracy&btnG=Search&as_sdt=2000&as_ylo=&as_vis=0

--222.64.223.221 (talk) 12:36, 20 June 2010 (UTC)
 * http://scholar.google.com.hk/scholar?hl=en&q=allintitle%3A+precision+ICP-AES&btnG=Search&as_sdt=2000&as_ylo=&as_vis=0

Selectivity/specificity
--222.64.223.221 (talk) 12:34, 20 June 2010 (UTC)
 * http://scholar.google.com.hk/scholar?as_q=selectivity&num=10&btnG=Search+Scholar&as_epq=ICP+AES&as_oq=&as_eq=&as_occt=title&as_sauthors=&as_publication=&as_ylo=&as_yhi=&as_sdt=1.&as_sdtp=on&as_sdts=5&hl=en

Limit of detection
--222.64.223.221 (talk) 12:39, 20 June 2010 (UTC)
 * http://scholar.google.com.hk/scholar?hl=en&q=allintitle%3A+limit+detection+ICP-AES&btnG=Search&as_sdt=2000&as_ylo=&as_vis=0

Linearity
--222.64.223.221 (talk) 12:41, 20 June 2010 (UTC)
 * http://scholar.google.com.hk/scholar?hl=en&q=allintitle%3A+linearity+ICP-AES&btnG=Search&as_sdt=2000&as_ylo=&as_vis=0

Hopefully, I can see the monograph about the linearity, reproducibility and Limit of quantification for the tech in the future to demonstrate the soundness, if the tech is not at the preliminary stage.
 * http://scholar.google.com.hk/scholar?hl=en&q=linearity+ICP-AES&btnG=Search&as_sdt=2000&as_ylo=&as_vis=0

To be honest, curve fitting techs other than linear one is rarely used in Analytical chemistry
 * http://scholar.google.com.hk/scholar?as_q=curve&num=10&btnG=Search+Scholar&as_epq=ICP+AES&as_oq=&as_eq=&as_occt=title&as_sauthors=&as_publication=&as_ylo=&as_yhi=&as_sdt=1.&as_sdtp=on&as_sdts=5&hl=en

Hope my above search results are objective ones rather than subjectively-chasing events. I mean that analytical chemists prefer demonstrating the linearities of the teches in the field to other curve fittings

Please bear in mind that the subject of curve fitting in the topic of Verification and validation applies to any fields. --222.64.223.221 (talk) 13:18, 20 June 2010 (UTC)

The history
From Google scholar
 * http://scholar.google.com.au/scholar?hl=en&q=allintitle%3A+ICP-AES&btnG=Search&as_sdt=2000&as_ylo=1978&as_yhi=1978&as_vis=0
 * http://scholar.google.com.au/scholar?hl=en&q=allintitle%3A+ICP-AES&btnG=Search&as_sdt=2000&as_ylo=1970&as_yhi=1977&as_vis=0

I'm surprised that the tech has got a such long history and not many monographs about its linearity which usually should be assessed even at the preliminary stage --222.67.209.251 (talk) 13:49, 20 June 2010 (UTC)

Although no monographs about its linearity but the following infos give glimps --222.67.209.251 (talk) 14:04, 20 June 2010 (UTC)
 * http://scholar.google.com.hk/scholar?hl=en&q=ICP-AES+determination+linearity&btnG=Search&as_sdt=2000&as_ylo=&as_vis=0

Validity
--222.64.19.136 (talk) 14:14, 20 June 2010 (UTC)
 * http://scholar.google.com.hk/scholar?hl=en&q=allintitle%3A+ICP-AES+validity&btnG=Search&as_sdt=2000&as_ylo=&as_vis=0


 * http://scholar.google.com.hk/scholar?hl=en&q=allintitle%3A+ICP-AES+validation&btnG=Search&as_sdt=2000&as_ylo=&as_vis=0

--222.64.19.136 (talk) 14:16, 20 June 2010 (UTC)
 * http://scholar.google.com.hk/scholar?hl=en&q=allintitle%3A+ICP-AES+validating&btnG=Search&as_sdt=2000&as_ylo=&as_vis=0

--222.64.19.136 (talk) 14:17, 20 June 2010 (UTC)
 * http://scholar.google.com.hk/scholar?hl=en&q=allintitle%3A+ICP-AES+validated&btnG=Search&as_sdt=2000&as_ylo=&as_vis=0

--222.64.19.136 (talk) 14:26, 20 June 2010 (UTC)
 * http://scholar.google.com.hk/scholar?hl=en&q=allintitle%3A+Inductively+coupled+plasma+atomic+emission+spectroscopy+validation&btnG=Search&as_sdt=2000&as_ylo=&as_vis=0

--222.64.19.136 (talk) 14:28, 20 June 2010 (UTC)
 * http://scholar.google.com.hk/scholar?hl=en&q=allintitle%3A+Inductively+coupled+plasma+atomic+emission+spectroscopy+validity&btnG=Search&as_sdt=2000&as_ylo=&as_vis=0

Nomenclature problem...???
--222.64.19.136 (talk) 14:23, 20 June 2010 (UTC)
 * http://scholar.google.com.hk/scholar?hl=en&safe=active&q=allintitle%3A%20Inductively%20coupled%20plasma%20atomic%20emission%20spectrometry&um=1&ie=UTF-8&sa=N&tab=ws
 * http://scholar.google.com.hk/scholar?hl=en&q=allintitle%3A+Inductively+coupled+plasma+atomic+emission+spectroscopy&btnG=Search&as_sdt=2000&as_ylo=&as_vis=0

About the definition of.....
--222.64.19.136 (talk) 14:33, 20 June 2010 (UTC)
 * http://scholar.google.com.hk/scholar?as_q=define+spectrometry&num=10&btnG=Search+Scholar&as_epq=&as_oq=&as_eq=&as_occt=title&as_sauthors=&as_publication=&as_ylo=&as_yhi=&as_sdt=1.&as_sdtp=on&as_sdts=5&hl=en
 * http://scholar.google.com.hk/scholar?hl=en&q=allintitle%3A+define+spectroscopy&btnG=Search&as_sdt=2000&as_ylo=&as_vis=0

--222.64.19.136 (talk) 14:35, 20 June 2010 (UTC)
 * http://scholar.google.com.hk/scholar?hl=en&q=allintitle%3A+defined+spectroscopy&btnG=Search&as_sdt=2000&as_ylo=&as_vis=0
 * http://scholar.google.com.hk/scholar?hl=en&q=allintitle%3A+defined+spectrometry&btnG=Search&as_sdt=2000&as_ylo=&as_vis=0

--222.64.19.136 (talk) 14:36, 20 June 2010 (UTC)
 * http://scholar.google.com.hk/scholar?hl=en&q=allintitle%3A+defining+spectrometry&btnG=Search&as_sdt=2000&as_ylo=&as_vis=0
 * http://scholar.google.com.hk/scholar?hl=en&q=allintitle%3A+defining+spectroscopy&btnG=Search&as_sdt=2000&as_ylo=&as_vis=0

--222.64.19.136 (talk) 14:37, 20 June 2010 (UTC)
 * http://scholar.google.com.hk/scholar?hl=en&q=allintitle%3A+definition+spectroscopy&btnG=Search&as_sdt=2000&as_ylo=&as_vis=0
 * http://scholar.google.com.hk/scholar?hl=en&q=allintitle%3A+definition+spectrometry&btnG=Search&as_sdt=2000&as_ylo=&as_vis=0

Public opinion
--222.64.19.136 (talk) 14:46, 20 June 2010 (UTC)
 * http://www.google.com.hk/search?hl=en&source=hp&q=define%3Aspectroscopy&btnG=Google+Search&aq=o&aqi=&aql=&oq=&gs_rfai=
 * http://www.google.com.hk/search?hl=en&safe=active&q=define%3Aspectrometry&btnG=Search&meta=

Science & religion .....
related.....????? --222.64.213.93 (talk) 00:10, 21 June 2010 (UTC)
 * Karmapa Controversy

Since Karmapa has been considered as a Kuanyin's manifestation on the earth and Kuanyin really is the Godess of earth which is a female figure. I don't know what to say.....because the above consequence happened on the earth though --222.64.213.93 (talk) 00:02, 21 June 2010 (UTC)


 * http://scholar.google.com.hk/scholar?hl=en&q=karmapa+NEAR+Kuanyin&btnG=Search&as_sdt=2000&as_ylo=&as_vis=0

--222.64.223.89 (talk) 01:33, 21 June 2010 (UTC)
 * http://scholar.google.com.hk/scholar?hl=en&q=karmapa+NEAR+Kuan+yin&btnG=Search&as_sdt=2000&as_ylo=&as_vis=0


 * http://scholar.google.com.hk/scholar?hl=en&q=karmapa+NEAR+Avalokite%C5%9Bvara&btnG=Search&as_sdt=2000&as_ylo=&as_vis=0

--222.64.223.89 (talk) 01:30, 21 June 2010 (UTC)
 * http://scholar.google.com.hk/scholar?hl=en&q=karmapa+NEAR+Avalokitesvara&btnG=Search&as_sdt=2000&as_ylo=&as_vis=0

--222.64.213.93 (talk) 00:09, 21 June 2010 (UTC)
 * http://scholar.google.com.hk/scholar?hl=en&q=allintitle%3A+Avalokite%C5%9Bvara+Kuanyin&btnG=Search&as_sdt=2000&as_ylo=&as_vis=0

--222.64.213.93 (talk) 00:13, 21 June 2010 (UTC)
 * http://scholar.google.com.hk/scholar?hl=en&q=Avalokite%C5%9Bvara+Kuanyin&btnG=Search&as_sdt=2000&as_ylo=&as_vis=0


 * http://scholar.google.com.hk/scholar?hl=en&q=Avalokitesvara+Kuan-yin&btnG=Search&as_sdt=2000&as_ylo=&as_vis=0

--222.64.213.93 (talk) 00:16, 21 June 2010 (UTC)
 * http://scholar.google.com.hk/scholar?hl=en&q=allintitle%3A+Avalokitesvara+Kuan-yin&btnG=Search&as_sdt=2000&as_ylo=&as_vis=0

I'll see how the spirit of the sixteenth karmapa sort this mess....@__@ --222.64.223.89 (talk) 01:38, 21 June 2010 (UTC)

'Nomenclature'?
What information exactly or information along what lines is supposed to go there? Is it about "quadrupole" vs. "high-resolution"? Is it about interferences issues? "Cold"/"hot" plasma modes? I don't quite get the idea of the planned section. 213.171.63.227 (talk) 11:16, 2 February 2011 (UTC)

Motor oil analysis
In the "Usage" section, in the paragraph beginning "ICP is used for motor oil analysis...", the term "ICP" was used throughout, without the "-MS". In my (considerable) experience, the ICP technique predominantly used in motor oil analysis is ICP-AES. Whilst ICP-MS is used, it is nowhere near as common and typically used in specialised analysis rather than routine engine oil sample testing. To qualify my experience, I have 18 years of product development and technical support with engine oils, including running a lubricating oil analytical laboratory. My final year project for my undergraduate degree was also in the subject of ICP-MS, specifically isolating and correcting for noise in the MS signal to improve detection limits and ion differentiation.

I have therefore moved the whole section to the ICP-AES article, with slight enhancements. Weasley one (talk) 09:37, 9 March 2011 (UTC)

Question
In the opening paragraph, is "low-background isotope" synonymous with "minimally radioactive isotope"? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Thintommy (talk • contribs) 03:36, 26 March 2015 (UTC)

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warning about edits by Analytic Jena
IP address 82.119.177.151 belongs to analytik-jena.de. Any edits by this IP should be flagged as having a conflict of interest. In particular, I have tagged as "not in citation" the statement that "Analytik Jena ICP-MS PQMS is the most sensitive instrument on the market." Note that this statement is older than the edits by the Analytic Jena; it appears to have been added by the company's predecessor, Bruker. While the author may be knowledgable, they are too close to the topic at hand. 136.62.254.174 (talk) 02:45, 24 August 2018 (UTC)

Exporting regulations from a determined country in the introduction?
I don't want to directly remove a cited paragraph, but i don't think that the sentence fits in the introduction of a characterization technique, any opinion on if it should be moved (where?) or removed?

--Bsckr (talk) 14:26, 5 October 2021 (UTC)


 * I would just delete it as insignificant, even though it's sourced. If we had a section on applications in nuclear technologies then maybe it could go there, but even then I would say it's marginal to include. –CWenger ( ^ •  @ ) 14:46, 5 October 2021 (UTC)
 * ✅ I agree.--Bsckr (talk) 04:10, 6 October 2021 (UTC)