Talk:Industrial musical

My personal statement
This is my first page and I'm hoping to improve it. (Good grammar has never been my strong point). I've added links to it on the pages for advertising and musical theater. It could have a list of composers. It would be informative to have a section about the different types of song contents, but I don't feel qualified to write it. There are two collectors of albums (Jonathan Ward and Steve Young) whom I can try to contact for this, if I can track down their e-mail addresses. Tomt 14:32, 21 Aug 2004 (UTC)
 * Excellent first article, Tomt! I should be happy to take a look at the copyedit side.  Don't panic about that kind of thing, because later editors will always spot the inadvertant mistakes.  I heard the same On the Media report and saw some parody sites on the Internet (I believe Advertising Age did an article on corporate anthems).  The only additions I'd suggest at this point is the musical genres favored.  E.g. the material always seemed to feature the Romantic musical Broadway genre (in particular a kind of King and I).  Finally, the budgets and the ways that industrial musicals financed the legitimate theater would be nice (alluded to in On the Media). Geogre 15:22, 21 Aug 2004 (UTC)


 * Thanks! I hope you don't mind, but I changed what you wrote in the history section because I thought it contained a lot of assumptions about the economics. Although we know the pay was certainly good, and the amounts invested to produce the shows was high, we don't know whether industrial or regular Broadway shows had a higher profit. The regular stage shows could run for over a year, while an individual industrial show might only last a few nights. I've replaced what we both originally wrote with some actual budget numbers as you suggested, which are supported by the reference sources.  This is looking good!  Thanks for putting in the trade show terminology.  I unfortunately don't know enough about musicals and Broadway to make genre comparisons. I'll work on making some redirects and disambiguation pages. Tomt 22:26, 21 Aug 2004 (UTC)

April 3, 2008 edit
All right, a much-needed cleanup. I fixed some grammar, improved the wording here and there, and corrected the end half of the opening definition. Over the course of 2007, copies of several full musicals were posted by WFMU's 365 Days project, so I updated the links to those, and removed some of the duller ones.

The See Also section had a wikilink to Industrial Music, but this was not appropriate; there's already a link to that page in the introduction where it's clearly stated that it's not to be confused with industrial musicals.

Someone also had put in a mention of the musical at the end of Pixar's Monsters Inc. movie. It's cute and funny, but in the context of the film it's more of a gag/talent show, and not so much an educational corporate production, so I removed it. Tomt 13:26, 3 Apr 2008 (CST)

References in popular culture?
Does anyone know of any references to industrial musicals in popular culture? (There may have been a possible reference to one in Player Piano.) Orville Eastland (talk) 03:37, 5 March 2009 (UTC)

I can think of a number of instances lampooning corporate musicals. The 'monorail song' from The Simpsons (and numerous other songs on The Simpsons), as well as musical numbers on South Park, Conan O'Brien show (he wrote the Simpsons monorail episode), Family Guy, American Dad, and probably many more shows along those lines could be seen as referential to industrial musicals. Bob Odenkirk has produced a handful of shows with sketches that parody corporate songs, including the Tim & Eric Awesome Show, I believe The Birthday Boys touched on it, and he's done some weird infomercial/musical sketches with his Terry Twillstein character from Run Ronnie Run. There are certainly a bunch of more serious movies that embody the spirit of 50s/60s corporations, but not many with musical numbers that I can recall. I do know that Tucker: The Man and His Dream was originally going to be a musical, which would have been interesting. --173.76.181.37 (talk) 21:38, 17 January 2014 (UTC)

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