Talk:Infant Jesus of Prague

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Nick cool 05:32, 2 July 2007 (UTC):''One time during a war, a heretic invaded the church and cut off the statue's little hands. The entire church itself was reduced to a pile of rubble. But one day a young priest heard a faint voice from the rubble. Digging through it, he found the little statue, and was elated. he immediately began work on a new church to house it. When the statue was finally installed a little voice was heard: "Give me hands, and I will bless you," the priest heard. And so he found and repaired the statue, and was as it is now, in its present condition.''

Is this verifiable in any way? "One time during a war?" What war? When? "A young priest?" Who? Cutting off the statue's hands caused the church to collapse? The statue has an audible, human voice? This may be a story that's commonly associated with the statue; in that case, it should be described as such. for now, I'm deleting it. Dyfsunctional 19:11, 18 May 2006 (UTC)

More information on the aforementioned "war"
The priest spoken of is Fr Cyril, who found the statue in the garbage after the Carmelites returned to their monastary following the Thirty Years War.

I found this information here:

--Shari Lord 11:30, 20 March 2007 (UTC)Shari

I reckon that an encyclopedic point of view is not served by the inclusion of the words 'Protestant Swedish'; "plundered by the troops" or "by the army" (as the case may be) would be more to the point -- don't you think?

Devotional —Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.183.244.122 (talk) 02:39, 14 April 2011 (UTC)

History
Did Princess Polyxena receive the statue as a wedding present or inherit it upon her mother's death? The History section states both. -or did her mother die just before the Princess's wedding? Mannanan51 (talk) 02:58, 23 November 2012 (UTC)Mannanan51

"Caveat" additions
My 2 caveat wiki paragraphs did not edit or change one word by anyone but added true perspective regarding the Holy Infant of Prague

THEY WERE BOTH REPEATEDLY DELETED

Here are the 2 caveat paragraphs to which I now add a Papal third:

History Caveat Wiki - It should be noted that until the late 1980's this Holy Sign Icon was practically universally known without using the name of Jesus, as The Infant of Prague, in exact fulfillment of Hosea 2:16-17. Also, the only truly known origin of the hand-less Icon, a pile of rubble after the Thirty Years War, was later verified and supported in the nineteenth century by the events at Lourdes, France, around a pile of rubble. There have also been repeated fabricated attempts to base this powerful Holy Self-made miraculous Sign-Icon of Prague in Spain, because the timing of its discovery and Hosea fulfillment contradicts the anti-Semitic text then being prepared by Mary of Agreda in Spain solely to try to sell an apocryphal, scandalous, sinfully violative of the first two Commandments and therefore impossible name, "Joakim", for the father of Mary already 1000 years honorably secured as Levite "Amram" by the Holy Qoran.

Papal Caveat Wiki (again) - Firstly, it should be noted in regard to the so-called Ratzinger "coronation" that for this event the hair on the Prague Holy Icon was painted unprecedented non-Jewish, non-Jacob (Genesis 25:21 et seq.), red. Also, the September 2009 event itself either never officially took place or could not last becase the Sanctuary of The Infant of Prague had been violated in April, 2009. Apparently Ratzinger had not cared to notice this. But when the Czech Republic rightly excluded/deported from Czech territory David Duke as undesirable or even dangerous in late April, 2009, it neither then nor thereafter made any provision for the human rights of Duke (who had actually kept an image of the Infant of Prague on his website the whole time he was getting his PhD), to obtain even a limited and guarded day pass access to the Holy Infant of Prague Shrine Sanctuary, which is not "Czech Territory". No one has sued the Czech government or the Vatican over this yet.

(Papal caveat contiued): But of course Ratzinger did not notice the April Prague Sabctuary violation as he wormed his way, with his Knight Waldheim, into the Holy Mosque on Temple Mount two weeks later on Msy 13, 2009. He did not see the Bob Dylan song, "Desolation Row", copyright chain from the nailed curtains to the broken doorknob, either, nor did he notice that the entire April event coincided exactly with the impossible finding of "probable cause" against Ingmar Guandique for the May 2001 Chandra Levy murder done by the Matt Hale/Knight Waldheim sponsoring FBI. How could he notice these instant replay basics when he never believed how anti-Semitic Mary of Agreda was told off in 1650 from a pile of rubble? Nobody messes with the Hosea 2: 16-17 abstract "Atlas Shrugged" Holy Infant.

After repeat deletions I added:

TO Maurauder40 et al: I am not a vandal. I am a lawyer. If you will stop deleting my LEGAL and SAFE Scripturally proven needed caveats, I will stop deleting your COMPLETELY MISLEADING Daniel 7 murder racket propaganda. You will please also note that I do not NEED to delete "your" lying junk to be understood. It is YOU who delete and call mine "unconstructive". OF WHAT? Murder rackets or phoney Catholicism?

See how they need to get away with anti-Semitic lies by blocking objectivity

Dolliee (talk) 08:42, 5 September 2013 (UTC)


 * There are numerous issues with what you are trying to add to the article. First off adding "Caveat Wiki" is not very encyclopedic.  Second, you do not provide a single reliable source.  Third, what you do provide is original research and not allowed on Wikipedia.  Fourth, subsequent edits started to insert usernames into article space, also not allowed on Wikipedia.  Fifth, the information is not given in a neutral point of view.  Sixth,  after I stopped editing due to the fact that I was observing WP regulations related to edit wars, you continued to reinsert your stuff when multiple editors reverted that, personally I am surprised you haven't been temporarily blocked by now for the multiple reverts.  Please read the links included on your talk page in the "Welcome to Wikipedia" message on your talk page.Marauder40 (talk) 12:34, 5 September 2013 (UTC)


 * None of this belongs in the article. It is not sourced, and even putting it here where it simply sounds like rants, is not appropriate use of article talk page space. --(AfadsBad (talk) 15:51, 5 September 2013 (UTC))

Magellan statue:
@2605:e000:218a:2d00:f18d:ba85:a58b:2507: Welcome to wikipedia. I have reverted this edit, because it deleted sourced content. Your edit comment has no relation to what you deleted. The other edit of yours similarly deleted sourced content, without any explanation. Please review wikipedia's content guidelines and WP:RS in particular. If you have concerns, please explain. Ms Sarah Welch (talk) 01:08, 5 December 2016 (UTC)

Deletion of sourced content, addition of unsourced content
2605:e000:218a:2d00:8d78:db8a:58d2:9932 / @2605:e000:218a:2d00:*: Welcome to wikipedia. Your repeated deletion of sourced content, and changes to the content in a manner that misrepresents the cited sources, is puzzling. Please see wikipedia's content policies and guidelines, particularly WP:RS and WP:V. If you have concerns, please explain what and why. Your personal opinion / prejudice / wisdom is irrelevant, and any objections you raise must identify reliable sources. Please do not edit war. Ms Sarah Welch (talk) 20:13, 8 December 2016 (UTC)

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Prayer to the Infant of Prague
History Of The Devotion To The Infant Of Prague

Devotion to the Infant Jesus is as old as Christianity itself. It ever tends to keep the great mystery of Our Lord’s birth vividly before us.

A special devotion to the Divine Child originated with the Carmelites in the City of Prague, Bohemia, in the beginning of the seventeenth century. Princess Polyxedia of Lobkowitz had received, as a wedding gift from her mother, a statue of the Divine Child, previously brought from Spain. After the death of her husband, the princess devoted herself to works of charity and was particularly helpful to the Carmelites in Prague. When in 1628 the Carmelite Monastery had been reduce to poverty, owing to the ravages of war, the princess gave her precious statue to the Carmelites, saying:

”I GIVE YOU WHAT I PRIZE MOST HIGHLY IN THE WORLD; HONOR AND RESPECT THE CHILD JESUS AND YOU SHALL NEVER BE IN WANT.”

Her gift was placed in the Carmelite oratory. The words of the princess proved prophetic for as long as the Carmelites kept up their devotion to the Divine Infant of Prague everything prospered with them. The Carmelites were later forced to flee form the city and in the confusion of the war, they were unable to take with them their miraculous statue. The invaders siezed it, and threw it into a pile of rubbish. In 1635, peace came to Prague and the Carmelites returned. One of them, Father Cyril, who had previously received great spiritual help through his devotion to the Infant of Prague, sought the statue, and found it amidst the rubbish. Overjoyed, he placed the statue again in the oratory. As Father Cyril was one day praying devoutedly before the statue, he heard a voice saying: “HAVE MERCY ON ME AND I WILL HAVE MERCY ON YOU. RETURN MY HANDS TO ME AND I SHALL GIVE YOU PEACE. THE MORE YOU HONOR ME, THE MORE I SHALL BLESS YOU.”

Startled by these words, Father Cyril examined the statue and upon drawing aside the mantle covering it, he found that both hands of the statue were broken off. The hands were restored to the statue through the generosity of a client of the Divine Child. Once more, peace and prosperity returned to the Carmelites.

Devotion to the Divine Child had always been practiced by the Carmelites, for through their Mother, Mary, this Divine Child had come to the world. St. Theresa of Jesus practice particular devotion to the Divine Child. St. Therese, the Little Flower, was also a most fervent venerator. Andraste777Warrior (talk) 05:27, 26 May 2022 (UTC)

Fernão de Magalhães
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