Talk:Infernal machine (weapon)

Requested move 30 January 2020

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The result of the move request was: not moved. (closed by non-admin page mover) Jerm (talk) 04:04, 6 February 2020 (UTC)

– Per WP:DIFFCAPS. There is no other primary topic that is lowercase, making this the primary topic for the lowercase version of the phrase. ZXCVBNM (TALK) 00:56, 30 January 2020 (UTC)
 * Infernal machine (weapon) → Infernal machine
 * Infernal machine → Infernal Machine
 * Oppose "infernal machine" is a legal term in lower case e.g. per State Laws and Published Ordinances, Firearms 1989 Page 110 "An infernal machine is any box, package, contrivance, bomb, or apparatus containing or arranged with an explosive or acid or poisonous or inflammable substance, chemical, or compound, or knife, loaded pistol, or gun, or other dangerous or ..." which does not refer to Infernal machine (1835) In ictu oculi (talk) 08:26, 30 January 2020 (UTC)
 * I deleted the entry "A term in US Firearms law for any dangerous device", because there's no use of the phrase in the article. If you were to update any article with this information, you could add the article as an entry to the dab page. I note that Infernal machine (1835) redirects to Infernal machine (weapon), which in light of what you just said may be an ambiguous title. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 18:17, 31 January 2020 (UTC).


 * Oppose this is not unambiguously the primary topic. For example, the assiisination attempt vs Napoleon is often referred by basically the same name, as well as often referred to as Plot of the rue Saint-Nicaise Benica11 (talk) 12:07, 30 January 2020 (UTC)
 * Oppose. After my clean up, it's 50:50. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 18:17, 31 January 2020 (UTC)
 * Oppose. "Infernal machine" was a literary device in early 20th century British novels, for example in Joseph Conrad's The Secret Agent (1907), Conan Doyle's The Lost World (1912) and Dorothy L. Sayers's Whose Body? (1923), which had a variety of meanings and had nothing to do with any real-life assassination plot. Any reader who comes across that phrase would be better served by a DAB page with no entry than by a misleading redirect. Narky Blert (talk) 15:09, 2 February 2020 (UTC)


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Slugs
This seems like a US slang term. Is it meant as a synonym for lead pellets? What is the original French and how was that translated? If slug is an accepted term then fine, but it seems unencyclopaedic: cannot lead pellets be used again? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 31.53.157.179 (talk) 14:06, 30 January 2020 (UTC)