Talk:Inflatable castle

Merger proposal
An article that you have been involved in editing, Inflatable castle, has been proposed for a merge with another article. If you are interested in the merge discussion, please participate by going, and adding your comments on the discussion page. Thank you. Vcelloho (talk) 06:10, 19 November 2012 (UTC)


 * I am proposing that closed inflatable trampoline be merged into inflatable castle. The article on inflatable castles mentions that closed inflatable trampoline is just a specific type of inflatable castle. A separate article is unnecessary. -Vcelloho (talk) 06:17, 19 November 2012 (UTC)

Merge under the name closed inflatable trampoline. Closed inflatable trampoline (CIT) is the industry name for these constructions, whatever shape they take. Not all closed inflatable trampolines are castles. But all bouncy castles are CITs.OttawaAC (talk) 00:46, 20 November 2012 (UTC)


 * Support - I think the two should clearly be merged, but I'm not so sure about under which title. People taking part in the discussion should note the now-closed move discussion below, and WP:COMMONNAME.  06:07, 20 May 2013 (UTC)

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Requested move

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No consensus to move. Vegaswikian (talk) 22:10, 21 September 2011 (UTC)

Inflatable castle → Bouncy castle — Most common name. Simply south...... creating lakes for 5 years 22:10, 14 September 2011 (UTC)

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 * Oppose (Do not move) - I think that usage on this term, at least in the US, is regionally determined. My wife informs me that one of her nephews has a thriving rental business in these devices in Alabama, and the there, at least, "bouncy castle" is the dominant usage. Given the list of alternative names in the lede, I doubt very much that we are going to find a dominant name across the many English-speaking subcultures, so that rather than moving it, and perhaps starting a series of moves, I would prefer to leave it where it use and just make sure that all the alternative names are redirected to this article, since no one term is really preferable over any of the others. Beyond My Ken (talk) 23:13, 14 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Sorry BMK, no bouncy castles in this part of Alabama, or in my wife's part of Mississippi. Drmies (talk) 01:57, 15 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Really? I could swear that's what she told me -- but we had the conversation (in passing) a couple of weeks ago, so I could be wrong.  I'll ask her in the morning.  This would be in SE Alabama, I think, somewhere around Elba or Dothan (????). Beyond My Ken (talk) 04:17, 15 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Well, ha, I live in the city! No, really, I wouldn't be surprised if there are such big differences here. Fortunately it won't affect my vote opposing this move, though. Drmies (talk) 04:53, 15 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Well, I got it bass ackwards. The generic word her nephew's company uses for a range of different rentable party items is "inflatables"; they're in Enterprise, AL. Beyond My Ken (talk) 12:13, 15 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Ha, Enterprise. That's a nice little stop on the way to the Gulf Coast. Yes, "inflatables" is a very going term here. I hope the family's business is doing well--things are pretty bleak in the great state of Alabama. Drmies (talk) 14:07, 15 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Oppose (do not move). Given that there are many different names, it's best to stick with the generic one. Drmies (talk) 01:57, 15 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Oppose. I agree with Drmies and Beyond My Ken that, with so many varieties, it's better to go with the generic term. For what it's worth, in Australia "jumping castle" is probably the common name. Jenks24 (talk) 14:42, 20 September 2011 (UTC)

Discussion

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Dubious tag for last sentence in lede
The last sentence in the lede (as of this post) has been tagged as dubious, but there's no related discussion for it and it is properly cited. This is the sentence I'm referring to: "Inflatable castles have been suggested as having some therapeutic value for children with certain sensory impairments, similar to ball pits." Because it's properly cited and not particularly dubious, I'm going to remove the tag. If you believe the tag should stay, feel free to revert the edit and create a relevant discussion section on this talk page. &#9737; nbmatt 23:59, 3 March 2015 (UTC)

Lack of reliable sources
Nearly the entire history section, along with the rest of the article, lacks independent and reliable sources. The two references for almost the entire history section are self-published. One of them is an obituary written by the family of John Scurlock, who they claim invented the Space Walk, and the other is a fan website and Amazon affiliate advertising link farm that references Wikipedia itself. The latter does itself also reference several other websites, but they are also self-published advertising websites, specifically belonging to companies that rent bounce houses. (One of those reference-of-reference websites also cites Wikipedia. Another is dead, and the other cites nothing.) The entire thing is very circular and untrustworthy.

With that in mind, I think it might be appropriate to delete most of the history section, especially given it is a common target for editors with conflicts of interest, and start over with the little reliable material I've found. This edit seems to be by a Scurlock affiliate, while this other edit promotes the Regehr family. I'm not sure what this edit promotes but it doesn't smell right to me either. --Anon423 (talk) 09:03, 20 February 2021 (UTC)

I've assembled a draft for a history section with reliable (better, at least) sources, in my user space. Let me know if you have opinions on any of the sources, like the IIHF (which is pretty sketchy IMHO). User:Anon423/sandbox/Inflatable Castle --Anon423 (talk) 14:08, 20 February 2021 (UTC)

Among the competing claims for invention of the inflatable castle, one questionable source, the Irish Inflatable Hirers Association [archive] mentions a group of English university students inventing the bouncy castle for a fundraising event in 1961. While I have found mentions on several lower-quality sources (mostly websites of rental companies), I don't think this is enough to earn them a mention in the article. As always I will happily change my opinion on seeing better sources. --Anon423 (talk) 18:31, 20 February 2021 (UTC)


 * I agree that the previous history section is full of unsubstantiated claims and poor sources. I think you are on the right track by pulling it back and significantly rewriting the history section. Some of everything (talk) 22:54, 22 February 2021 (UTC)

Party
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Move discussion in progress
There is a move discussion in progress on Talk:Bounce House (disambiguation) which affects this page. Please participate on that page and not in this talk page section. Thank you. —RMCD bot 17:04, 4 September 2023 (UTC)