Talk:Inge Morath

Biography assessment rating comment
The article may be improved by following the WikiProject Biography 11 easy steps to producing at least a B article. -- KenWalker | Talk 05:05, 10 June 2007 (UTC)


 * I've made a major edit to this page on August 27, 2007. -- bocajpj | Talk —Preceding unsigned comment added by Bocajpj (talk • contribs) 16:01, August 27, 2007 (UTC)

Info Box
I tried adding her spouses and children to the info box, but they won't show up? --128.83.227.156 (talk) 15:22, 16 December 2010 (UTC)

Daniel
I've just read about Inge and Arthur Miller's son David whom they essentially abandoned upon learning of his Down's Syndrome, which I think should be more included in this article. 209.244.16.207 20:14, 23 September 2007 (UTC)MARGOTSPIFFY

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"Mörath"
Please add evidence for the assertion that she was born Mörath rather than Morath. -- Hoary (talk) 02:36, 26 March 2009 (UTC)


 * Morath's birth certificate, with the umlaut, is in the archives of the Inge Morath Foundation, NY. For published evidence see Morath's retrospective catalog Inge Morath: Fotografien 1952 - 1992 (Salzburg: Edition Fotohof im Otto Muller Verlag) p. 18. "On May 23, 1923 Inge Morath is born in Graz, Austria. Her parents, Edgar and Mathilde Mörath (the typically German umlaut is "lost" somewhere in her international career), are scientists [etc.]." —Preceding unsigned comment added by Bocajpj (talk • contribs) 14:53, 21 April 2009 (UTC)


 * Then feel free to edit the article accordingly. -- Hoary (talk) 15:26, 21 April 2009 (UTC)

Sources - Policy
The article is flawed by over-reliance on an unpublished manuscript, a primary source written by Morath. Wikipedia editors are supposed to use published, secondary sources by valid third parties, preferably academic or journal studies. More information needs to be found, as all these cites could be deleted as invalid.Parkwells (talk) 19:57, 2 September 2010 (UTC)

Nationality
I wonder why you do not write austrian, but "austria-born" instead. I understand that especially Americans have a stronge urge to include each and everyone person viewed sufficiently positive in their own country, but as far as I knwo she was an Austrian lady who happened to spend a part of her life in various other countries.

A comparison with other W.P. versions, i.e. in other languages, is also revealing in this regard, I find...

Regards, -- 147.142.186.54 (talk) 15:28, 24 October 2012 (UTC)

Monographs
Since this (excellent) edit by Bocajpj of 2007, this article has listed "monographs".

As related to photobooks, "monograph" is a funny kind of word. (There was nothing directly relevant in the OED entry for monograph, the last time I checked.) It first seems to mean "photobook on one subject". A photobook by Morath on one subject (or perhaps also theme) would be a monograph by her. A photobook of her work edited by other(s) would be their monograph about her work (its one subject would be Morath's photography, or of course something narrower). A photobook by her that was a "greatest hits" collection, or that even one that consisted of two halves whose relationship wasn't made clear, would not be a monograph. (Thus Cartier-Bresson's The Decisive Moment wouldn't be a monograph.)

I get the impression, though, that "monograph" has come to mean "book that isn't an exhibition catalogue". In my more cynical moments, I tend to think that it simply is to "book" what "pre-owned" is to "used". Any thoughts, Bocajpj, Lopifalko, anyone? -- Hoary (talk) 01:06, 29 June 2015 (UTC)


 * I agree with everything you say, and I like your point about "one that consisted of two halves whose relationship wasn't made clear". I used to like to list books that were major bodies of work / essays in their own list, as I believed monograph to mean "photobook on one subject". I liked showing the reader the core work of a photographer, rather than retrospectives and catalogues, but have ceased doing this some time ago after receiving your advice. It is easier(?) to just list all publications by the photographer under 'Publications' or 'Publications by X'. -Lopifalko (talk)


 * Yes, I think so. For books by Mary Ellen Mark, say, one might fruitfully separate her monographs from the rest. But even there, such a division will be complicated by the monographs about her that I suppose will come out when current fashions have run their courses and her kind of photography again has the popularity it deserves. (Pardon the unsolicited minor soapboxing.) -- Hoary (talk) 10:51, 30 June 2015 (UTC)