Talk:Inis Beag

Corrections
Hi, I have added a text on how this work was received. I also went through the article and tried to make the text clearer. Messenger's descriptions, as reported here, don't seem particularly accurate to me (e.g. based on other writers about the Aran Islands, e.g. JM Synge, Liam Ó Flaithearta and Tomás Ó Flaithearta). However, I have not read Messenger's works and have instead tried to focus on making the article clear and moved to attribute material to the sources rather than stating things as fact. I have assumed that these sources do indeed say what they do here, though it's possible that they do not. More work needed here. Ballystrahan (talk) 11:09, 14 August 2022 (UTC)

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Enquiring minds want to know: what was the real name of this island, and was it the inspiration for Craggy Island in Father Ted?

There are lots of islands in that area that could potentially qualify, and although this page contains a map, its detail does not appear to me to map perfectly onto the real geography of the most likely candidate area, so the actual location of Inis Beag still remains vague. -- The Anome 11:59, 19 October 2006 (UTC)

this page makes no sense. it explains a nickname of a cultural anthropologist yet there isn't an article on John Cowan Messenger as of yet. this is really strange. it sems to melike this is backwards. there should be an article about the man himself with this being but a section of it. i would suggest making the article "John Cowan Messenger" and moving this information to it. --Tainter 20:33, 29 December 2006 (UTC)


 * This article is about the island community, not Messenger himself. Inis Beag appears, with evidence from multiple sources, to have been a real place with a fascinating anthropological background, but with an obfuscated name. There is no suggestion that it was a composite, or made up by Messenger.


 * The UCSB SexInfo map strongly suggests that they believe that the island was actually Inishnee (Gaelic: Inis Ní), near the village of Roundstone in County Galway, although there is no source information given for that map, so we cannot regard the identification as authoritative. The apparent use of the same map on the SexInfo site and the articles on Inishnee in the Folding Landscape Archive  is also suggestive that the SexInfo site is referring to Inishnee: see http://www.iol.ie/~tandmfl/images/inisni2.gif and http://www.soc.ucsb.edu/sexinfo/images/inisbeag.gif respectively. However, since this is all circumstantial evidence inferred from a secondary source, in the absence of an explicit sourced identification of the name of the island, we can't put this in the article.


 * Other candidate locations for Inis Beag include: the largest of the Aran Islands, Inishmore (Irish: Árainn (Mhór) or Inis Mór), the middle and second-largest, Inishmaan (Inis Meáin / Inis Meadhóin), and the smallest and most eastern of the Aran Islands, Inisheer (Inis Thiar or Inis Oírr / Inis Oirthir). -- The Anome 12:08, 22 January 2007 (UTC)

Inis Beag = Inisheer
I read Messenger's work on the island of 'Inis Beag' and was really interested. So, I was determined to figure out the real name of this place. After reading about all of the Aran islands, it is clear that Inis Oirr (Inisheer) is the island which Messenger wrote about. Inisheer and Inis Beag share the same landmarks (O' Brians castle, St. Kevins sinking church, the Plassey shipwreck) and assume the same geographical shape. Siobhanmurphy (talk) 05:17, 11 April 2008 (UTC)


 * Another point supporting Inisheer: the article states "During the period of his study between 1958 and 1966, Inis Beag supported a population of around 350", and this census chart row for the year 1951 (7 years before Messengers study began) tell that the island of "Inishere" had 338 (and only that island and the island of Inishmaan with 361 comes really close to 350). Now, I googled Inishere as I suspected it to be a typo and the top result was this tourist site. The site title says "Inishere", but the googlemap at the bottom says "Inisheer".Lastly the article states that Inis Beag is a "remote island off the coast of Connemara, Ireland and near the Aran Islands" and the census chart tells us that "Inishere" (and Inishmaan) is part of the Aran Islans.


 * Case Closed? :-] Do we have anything written that can be used as a reference on this or is it all original research. Just curious, I've at least earned my nerd point for this evening 8-D Lokpest (talk) 22:00, 17 November 2010 (UTC)

Source of his information
If people were so incredibly uptight about sex, how did this outsider anthropologist ever get them to tell him all about how they had missionary-position sex in the dark with their clothes on? Credulity (talk) 00:09, 31 July 2012 (UTC)

Also why at all is this article dominated by a single cultural deconstructionist and his opinions? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 89.207.58.11 (talk) 11:01, 21 January 2015 (UTC)

Fiction
This article is categorized as a fictional location. If it is one, it should be tagged using Template:Fiction. 108.218.12.104 (talk) 17:04, 23 November 2013 (UTC)

Skepticism
I am extremely skeptical as to Messenger's study. Anyone else feel the same? EricthePinko (talk) 16:30, 9 October 2015 (UTC)

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