Talk:Ink Master season 4

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All edits of this wiki page and those of the series should be done using the correct and accurate information from the series. The page is not a 'test your abilities' page. Please use the sandbox to test your markup. A master series page is in the works. Each season's page will have reduced information to reflect information that is unique to that particular season. Episode list is also in the works (school has slowed progress) and will require formats on each season to be equal. Please follow the format and templates when editing the Season 4 page. Kevintampa5 (talk) 00:28, 19 March 2014 (UTC)

Future Events
Future events do not belong on the main article page per WP:FUTURE. Please if you are adding future events, even though confirmed, if added without sources/citations/references will be removed. Cite all sources. Continued future edits will result in a request for a more restrictive lock down of the article to limited registered users. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Kevintampa5 (talk • contribs) 02:50, 12 March 2014 (UTC) Per Wikipedia Administration, if continued future edits violate WP:FUTURE and disruptive information is continually added, semi-protection or protection will be applied to the main article. We do not want this to happen so please source ALL future event details with primary sources, not secondary. News outlets are not primary. As mentioned before, un-sourced edits are subject to removal since they are not verified within the article. Kevintampa5 (talk) 00:28, 19 March 2014 (UTC)

Due to the number of 'future' edits, semi-protection has been requested for season 4 article. Kevintampa5 (talk • contribs) 02:14, 14 March 2014 (UTC)

Future Events Discussion
Use this section to discuss future episode details and how it can be written PRIOR to posting it on the main article. All un-sourced edits will be challenged and possible revised or removed.

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 * Future episodes: I think we can allow a list of episodes, but a format to follow should be like this
 * Episode 5

''Scheduled to air March 25, 2014
 * Information subject to change.

Details of the episode should not be added. Since they are subject to change at a moments notice, this could be problematic. Limited future episode details can be included in the PRIOR episode's Teaser IF that information was depicted in the teaser. Kevintampa5 (talk) 00:29, 19 March 2014 (UTC)



Progress Table
I have added the category of EDGE to differentiate LOW from the winner's selected low. A unique scenario is possible from this new feature. A notation on the progress chart and the legend was added to explain this scenario. All discussions regarding the progress chart should go here.Kevintampa5 (talk) 03:03, 21 March 2014 (UTC)

Unfortunate
Hello all, It is unfortunate that so many inaccurate edits were recently made. This has misled anyone using this article page over the past couple of days. I have reverted to an older version of the article which contained accurate information. I am sorry if this led to your edit being removed. Please, if you have changes you wish to make, discuss them here first. Kevintampa5 (talk) 22:48, 17 April 2014 (UTC)

Progress Chart Color Change
This section will discuss progress chart colors. THe reason the current colors are used is because it is clear and links with previous seasons based on those chart colors. We can change the colors, but we need to ensure it will be backwards compatible with the other seasons. This will prevent confusion between the seasons articles.Kevintampa5 (talk) 22:48, 17 April 2014 (UTC)

RFC
Are the tables in the article clear, concise, and easy to understand? Should the tables be re-done in a simpler fashion? Carriearchdale (talk) 19:40, 27 April 2014 (UTC)


 * I happen to think it is clearly readable. The table includes a legend which explains what each style means. Just indicating a pass or no pass rating would basically make the individual achievements and placements on the show pointless.Kevintampa5 (talk) 03:17, 29 April 2014 (UTC)

Comment - One of my concerns about the tables is that the present tables may render out so large on a viewer's screen that it might be cumbersome for some readers to enjoy all of the accurate information contained in the tables. Carriearchdale (talk) 04:09, 29 April 2014 (UTC)


 * I have personally tested this article on a variety of web browsers and screens, including mobile devices. It renders just fine on Android and Blackberry, IE7+, Chrome, FireFox, and others.Kevintampa5 (talk) 04:24, 29 April 2014 (UTC)
 * Also note, tomorrow a new episode premiers, I will be making updates to reflect that. Please keep this in mind if you are editing tomorrow evening around this time.Kevintampa5 (talk) 04:26, 29 April 2014 (UTC)


 * Comment. LegoBot invited me here.  From someone who has never heard of this show, it seems a bit confusing at first, but I was able to make sense of it eventually.  It rendered fine on my screen, but I'm using an HD resolution and PC-based browser (Firefox).  I doubt anyone with my lack of knowledge is going to be looking at this page, so it's probably not worth trying to make it more accessible to me. NinjaRobotPirate (talk) 00:21, 10 May 2014 (UTC)

Recent updates/changes
I have gone through and made the article and episodes easier to understand. Before changing this again, please discuss it in this section. Kevintampa5 (talk) 03:05, 30 April 2014 (UTC)

I thought we were trying to compromise here and work together. It looks to me like you gone back in the article and redone the formatting back to the original formatting which was sloppy with s wavy up and down column that made it very hard for most readers to follow. Also, the formatting in the style you have done looks so far from encyclopedic that it is really a shame. Please take no offense, I am just stating my opinion.

I hope you will have a good night and even better weekend!!!

ciso!!! Carriearchdale (talk) 22:47, 2 May 2014 (UTC)

clarification neededBold text
Kevin,

Can you explain to me what is the intentional meaning of these two sentences from the article please?

"The audience vote directly affects the contestant lineup for the following season. Based on highest vote count, the audience decided on the return.[clarification needed]"

The audience vote directly affects the contestant lineup for the following season. <<<<--

Can you try to rewrite this sentence using correct grammar? I am meaning that each sentence needs a nominate and a predicate, more commonly know as a noun and a verb.

Based on highest vote count, the audience decided on the return.[clarification needed]

Based on highest vote count = phrase

the audience = subject (noun)

decided     = verb

on the return ???????????????

maybe we could try replacing the last with:

ultimately decides the next season's contestant line up

or

ultimately decides the the next season's line up of competing tattoo artists

Based on the highest vote count, the audience ultimately decides the the next season's line up of contestants.

Based on the highest vote count, the audience ultimately decides the the next season's line up of competing tattoo artists.

''Thanks for looking this over. Have a lovely May day!!! It may derive from the French expression "venez m'aider", meaning "come help me", the last two syllables of which sound similar to "Mayday".''

from http://www.etymonline.com/index.php?search=mayday&searchmode=none

ciao!!!

Carriearchdale (talk) 03:47, 1 May 2014 (UTC)


 * Carrie, the audience vote takes place via social media. The popular vote declares the winner. The winner is given a second chance to acheive Ink Master status. The top 3 contestants in a season are ineligible for return so they are not included in the voting. All other contestants are allowed the oportunity. So long as the change you propose conveys that message, I am good with it. I originally thought I had changed that to this,
 * Audience voting is a process introduced in season two. It allows viewers to cast a vote for their favorite artists they would like to award a second chance. The voting is done via facebook or twitter from the Ink Master website. Once the voting has closed out, usually during the "Ink Master Live" finale for that season, the votes are tallied and the winner is offered a change to return the following season.
 * I dont know where it was changed. I probably forgot to save when I made that edit, or an edit conflict occurred and I didnt fix afterwards. Which way would you prefer to word it? I think both ways are good but we only need one way. We just have to avoid saying it determines the lineup for the following season, because it doesnt. It just determine which contestant of the 14 that lost gets a 'return-next-season' card. Kevintampa5 (talk) 16:33, 1 May 2014 (UTC)


 * wow this page is a bit more muddled than I thought. So the return at the end of the sentence:

== Based on highest vote count, the audience decided on the return. ==

Headline text
Now this paragraph you wrote and now had found it, is a much better way to describe what goes on at the end the finale show.

Well my opinion is that the article sentence above, and the way it was written, is sort of how multiple sentences are running all through the article that are like that one.

I think it is really a better way to fix the article is for you to handle updating the shows each week, and I will be happy to come and look at the article every other day or so, and that way we can use teamwork to get the article all polished up. What do you say???

ciao!!! Carriearchdale (talk) 17:01, 1 May 2014 (UTC)

It works for me. One thing I want to do is remove the critique section details in favor of a ranking such as passed, middle, failed. Additional details really add nothing to the article. I would also like to have the human canvas and winners worst selections placed on their own line, like it would be in an encyclopedia. Having the term winner in the human cavas verdict section can mislead the reader. I propose we change it to a sentence like before. Something lke this, "The worst artist, selected by the human canvas jury, was Nate" and, "The worst artist, selected by the elimination challenge winner, was Norman". It's sad, I was among the top 3% in my state for English when I was still in school. You wouldn't be able to tell by my composure of the article. Kevintampa5 (talk) 19:05, 3 May 2014 (UTC)

No, no, no, you did a great in your composure of the article! Not everyone could even compose an article like one. I work with writers and authors everyday in real world life work. I am a professional polisher publisher.

Btw, what kind of work do you do? And also, is Tampa the town where the huge bridge fell apart? Do you remember? That would make a good article. Hoe you are having a good weekend so far!

ciao!!!

Carriearchdale (talk) 20:57, 3 May 2014 (UTC)


 * Thank you for the complements. I have a habit of identifying errors on news website articles and have communicated with the editors to have those discrepancies fixed. I know what a publisher is but what is a polisher publisher? One that makes it look good before the final product? I am not permitted to disclose my employer, but it is currently in the finance industry out of Tampa.
 * The bridge that fell, well there were 3. The inter-coastal waterway bridge panels that fell, the old Sunshine Skyway bridge that collapsed after a barge rammed into it, and one that just happened earlier today when a truck rammed the girder that was sagging.

Well, I am prepping right now for tonight's airing. I hope your skills are ready to repair and make it look brittanicastic.
 * Please cautious when you edit. During one of your previous edits to fix my mess, you accidentally removed Episode 10. I have added it back, but you will need to modify it up for encyclopedic use.Kevintampa5 (talk) 01:11, 7 May 2014 (UTC)

Hi Kevin, Yes the skyway bridge that fell was a very horrible incident that might make a great article. If want to do one about it I would be glad to work with you on the article.

I work at a publishing company. Part of my job is to work with authors, and writers to get their manuscripts ready to go to print as a book. So that is where the word polisher comes from. It is really another term for copy editing. If you ever have the notion to write a book let me know. I have an inside track! lol I hope your week starts out right!

ciao!!! Carriearchdale (talk) 02:29, 12 May 2014 (UTC)

S04E06 "2-on-1 Tat-Astrophe"
This episode has disappeared from Vudu and Netflix. Netflix has renumbered E07 and following to E06 and following. Anybody know why? W\&#124;/haledad (Talk to me) 14:01, 8 July 2022 (UTC)