Talk:Inner City (Budapest)

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 * the first in its kind in Europe after the London Underground. It was inaugurated in 1896 and still connnects Belváros with Városliget the City Park. Budapest is planning to build a 4th and 5th metro line.

This could be put into an article about Budapest Metro.

--Adam78 17:26, 10 Mar 2005 (UTC)

I've removed these two links below, since they don't belong to the Belváros:


 * Metro 4
 * Millennium Underground Railway

--Adam78 22:32, 1 Apr 2005 (UTC)

District 5
The primary areas of interest for the residential property investor are the central 5th and 6th districts. The inner districts of the Pest side is where the city”s financial, administrative, retail and commercial centers are located. This is the most attractive district among businessmen, expatriate singles, emloyees of foreign multinational companies and embassies with high rental budget. The St. Stephen’s Cathedral, the House of Parliament, banks, commercial centers, the famous Váci pedestrian Street is also located in District 5. Deák Square, where the three metro lines meet, with the neighbouring Madács Square are one of the most centeric location in the district. If you intend to purchase an investment property providing high capital growth, high rental yiled, this could be your focused area. In this district you may find streets with full of restaurants, shops and bars in the pace of the City, as well as quite still bright side streets in the Center next to the Parliament.

—The preceding unsigned comment was added by 81.183.221.5 (talk) 13:11, 5 April 2007 (UTC).

This should be called Downtown, in consistency with other article names that have been anglicized. Alensha 23:53, 12 October 2005 (UTC)

I basically agree with the renaming, but "downtown" is not the only option and the possible terms ("city centre", "inner city" and the above) recall associations which may not be useful for this city part. The term "downtown" recalls shopping district and its hustle and bustle (it's true for Astoria or Váci utca but so much not for other parts), "inner city" may recall slum-like areas and "city centre" sounds like a simple geographical definition independently of the character of this particular city part, and it may be subjective (it may also refer to the most popular squares in the centre which are outside Belváros, e.g. Blaha Lujza tér). Anyway, I think "city centre" could be the best alternative out of them. Adam78 19:59, 13 October 2005 (UTC)

City centre, then. It makes no difference to me as long as it's in English. :) Alensha 20:52, 13 October 2005 (UTC)


 * Since this is kind of a proper name, should both words be capitalized? Alensha 20:52, 13 October 2005 (UTC)

Yes, it should. – By the way, I'm thinking of a fourth solution, "Old Town (Budapest)", analogously with the one in Prague, since that may be one of the oldest parts of Budapest (except for Aquincum). However, we would need an expert for that. Adam78 21:33, 13 October 2005 (UTC)

I don't know… that part doesn't look too old, I mean, historically old, like castle districts, Eger, Kőszeg, etc. But I'm no Budapest expert… Alensha 23:36, 13 October 2005 (UTC)

An opinion
A friend of mine, whom I asked about this question, who is a native speaker of (U.S.) English, visited Budapest last year (including this city part) and read about the city quite a lot, answered as follows:


 * "City center" (or "central city") implies a center of commerce, as does "downtown"; we also use "historic center" or "historic downtown (district)" if we want to emphasize the historic nature of the area, and if it is an area of historic preservation which may no longer be the most important commercial area. Any of these choices would be good.  "Inner" does match the "bel-" aspect and is widely used in tourbooks about Hungary.  I'm not sure if British English use of "inner city" carries the slumlike stigma or not.  But this should not prevent its use for non-slum areas.

Adam78 23:11, 22 November 2005 (UTC)

okay, then move the article to the name you like the most. it is up to you to decide, since it's your city, not mine :) I just want this article to have an English name. Alensha 21:08, 17 February 2006 (UTC)

All right. Google corroborates the fact that "inner city" is used the most: if we exclude hits from Hungary and Wikipedia results, "inner city" is found 730 times, "city center/centre" (combined) 535 times, "downtown" 378 times and "inner town" 249 times (all with the term "Belváros" also included). I think it's an important argument that "inner city" is widely used in tourbooks about Hungary. Naming conventions (use English) says as follows:


 * "If you are talking about a person, country, town, movie or book, use the most commonly used English version of the name for the article, as you would find it in other encyclopedias and reference works."

So let's use "inner city". Uff.

Adam78 13:34, 18 February 2006 (UTC)

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