Talk:Institutional abuse

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Hi all, I will be working on this article as a part of a psychology class project, and am working to add about 5 articles in the form of literature reviews. Everything changing is a work in progress, but any suggestions you have would be much appreciated! Rebeccaworrell (talk) 03:05, 16 April 2013 (UTC)

Current rough draft of updated article can be found at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Rebeccaworrell/sandbox#Abuse_of_older_adults for reviewers. Rebeccaworrell (talk) 05:40, 24 April 2013 (UTC)

Recent addition - Mental Institutions
I've deleted the recently-added section. One of the sources is a blog. The bigger issue is that the added text has nothing to do with the subject matter of this article. None of the sources support the proposition that institutionalization is or was per-se abuse nor that the regimes were in any way inconsistent with the ethical standards of the day with respect to any of the historical examples being referred to. Fladrif (talk) 22:07, 20 April 2013 (UTC)

The "ethical standards of the day" are precisely the problem. You have no business deleting the FACT that institutionalizing people in mental institutions is abuse. Saying it has nothing to do with the article is like saying that going fishing has nothing to do with fish. I do realize that your college background has mentally deranging effects, but that is just ridiculous. When was the last time YOU were locked in a mental institution? You have no background from which to draw any conclusions, and to say that institutional abuse has nothing to do with institutional abuse is mentally bereft. The INSISTENCE that middle-aged adults are abused because of "dealing with mental health issues" is BEYOND misleading. I should say first of all that the COURT SYSTEM is also an INSTITUTION, and so are PRISONS. The INSISTENCE on portraying the subject at hand as though it doesn't really exist this way, today, in the United States of America, when it is a RAMPANT problem all over this country, is CRIMINAL NEGLIGENCE, FRAUD and INTENTIONAL (FURTHER) ABUSE. Wikipedia, CIA PSYOPS. WE are LEGION, WE are MANY, and WE NEVER FORGET. — Preceding unsigned comment added by InvisibleRefugee (talk • contribs) 05:44, 5 April 2014 (UTC)

=Lindy Edits=


 * First sentence: change “of” to “or”
 * Confusing second sentence

Background section

 * I like that you have links to the different settings, but I would like it if you added maybe a 1 sentence description of each setting
 * I think it would be easier to read if you bolded the three categories of institutional abuse before you define them


 * “In overstressed situations, power over the patients can bring feelings of control and significance, leading to stress being a predictor of abuse in institutional and familial settings.” This is a little difficult to understand. Reword if you can
 * “Patients can often be difficult to manage through inability or behavioral issues, and those who are more difficult for staff to work with are often the victims of abusive situations.” I would turn this into two sentences

Historical perspective

 * Misspelling of “universal” in second sentence
 * 3rd sentence: “it;s” should be “it’s”
 * midway through this paragraph, change “under a ideology” to “under an ideology”
 * try to decrease your use of passive voice
 * In this section try to make sure you remain in the past tense
 * Second paragraph: change united States to “United States”
 * “LSD was tested by using prostitutes to trick men into taking the drug, and various combinations of depressants, hallucinogens, and stimulants would be given to unconsenting soldiers for observation of the effects.” Change this to two sentences

Abuse of children

 * “Researchers found incidents ranging from 39 to 585 abuse cases per 100 children living in full-time housing, with only 85 in 1000 cases being reported to authorities.” Do you mean “39 to 585 abuse cases per 1000?

Model of abuse

 * “Risk factors towards abuse are associated with each of these, such as the stress of the working environment can be to caregivers.” Confusing sentence, try to reword
 * It would be nice if you could make or find a picture of the concentric circles to illustrate your point

Caretaker risk factor

 * Need a space between “facility status” and “A”
 * The second sentence and the last sentence in this section are rather redundant

Exogenous Factors

 * I would use a more basic word than “exogenous,” if you can think of one
 * “beginnings and ends of school years” I would change to “beginning and end of the school year”
 * Need a space between “abuse.A”

Abuse of older adults

 * “There is not a definitive definition of institutional abuse of older adults, with psychologists differing with legal definitions, and differing depending on the measures used.” This is awkwardly worded
 * Typo in 3rd sentence: “mst” to most
 * “In a study of American assistance homes, there was a rate of 20% for employees stealing from residents, with employees acknowledging that is was the residents that were more difficult or abusive that were more likely to be robbed.” Typo in this sentence. Also I would change the beginning to: 20% of employees reported stealing from residents
 * Second paragraph: “categories:validated” add space
 * “vulnerability due o dementia” correct this typo

Throughout the article: make sure that when you cite something, there is no space between the period and the citation (e.g.: . [1]) Lindy.williams (talk) 20:42, 1 May 2013 (UTC)

Review of your article
Intro
 * "neglect, such as neglect" needs to be edited
 * "to the effects of programs forced to work below service standards" this seems really vague and difficult for me to follow. Maybe you could clarify what you mean to say here.

Background
 * the types of abuse you list are helpful but i think it would be wise to define them for your audience, especially discriminatory abuse and neglect, which they might be less familiar with
 * an example of each type of abuse (program, system, overt) would probably aid your reader and make it easier to follow
 * does "isolation from the community can have similar effects" belong where you have placed it (end of paragraph)? It seems somewhat random and out of place.
 * towards the end you mention "dealing with" abusive situations, where I think you could be more descriptive and specific by using a word such as "prosecuting"

Historical Perspective
 * try to use a more seamless transition between the first two sentences of this section. Right now it is very stark and somewhat random
 * Capitalize U of United States in the second paragraph

Abuse of children
 * change "child maltreat" to "child maltreatment"
 * I don't think you meant to type 585 when referencing the # of abuse cases, just make sure you have the accurate info!
 * Use more consistent verb conjugation under "child risk factors" and also watch out for duplicate sentences

More broadly, make sure your article branches out to other related information, is clear and engaging, and potential includes an image of some kind. You utilize a logical flow and progression of ideas-- great job!

Tawhite2013 (talk) 04:42, 3 May 2013 (UTC)

Carlisle Indian Industrial School
This institution is listed as an example of an abusive institution, yet the Wikipedia article it links to does not mention that any notable instance of abuse ever occurred there. I presume it has been added in error. Unless someone can cite has some specific instance of notable abuse, I will remove it. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2A02:C7D:136:7600:6CD8:ADBA:B40A:B416 (talk) 17:44, 19 February 2017 (UTC)

US-only?
The article suddenly starts using the term ‘state’ - which means what, a ‘US state’? Does this mean that readers are presumed to all be in the USA only? Needs cleanup.CecilWard (talk) 13:51, 15 February 2019 (UTC)


 * I don't think it should be read as 'state' in terms of the US. The first occasion of the word 'state' appears, to me, to be with regard to 'the state' as the government of a nation or country.  While there is a section about the US, it is not intended as a US meaning throughout. 81.148.255.104 (talk) 14:04, 12 July 2022 (UTC)

It has been suggested that this article be merged with Violence against people with disabilities.
While I understand why people may want to merge these two articles, I am not in favour of it myself.

Firstly, that would imply this only applies to people with disabilities, which is not necessarily the case. It can easily be applied to children being looked after by a local authority, e.g. in a children’s care facility but subject to abusive regimes by the staff. Also, consider the possibility of a patient in an NHS hospital. They may not be disabled but could be subject to this type of abuse, either by being discharged when it is unsafe (in order to clear beds), infantilised by the staff or neglected due to the overburdening of the system.

Secondly, while 'people with disabilities' are potential victims for this type of abuse, there are many people who do not fit into this category, such as older people who are merely unable to live alone, people with mental health issues, or people suffering with addictions. It may be better to consider that this applies to 'vulnerable people and children'.

Lastly, it may be applicable to other situations or types of abuse, e.g. institutionalised racism or misogyny in the police. Sterlbax (talk) 14:23, 12 July 2022 (UTC)


 * I agree that the recommendation to merge the articles was probably misguided, it makes no sense to me that the page for violence against people with disabilities explicitly mentions institutional abuse, yet nothing in the institutional abuse article mentions disabilities. I was the one who recommended the merge so I'll remove it and edit the pages instead. Feralcateater000 (talk) 22:06, 12 July 2022 (UTC)

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