Talk:Intelligence Bureau (India)/Archive 1

Move
Moved in preparation for a new article covering Pakistan, who has an agency of the same name. The name "Intelligence Bureau" is also generic and possibly should be used to point to "Intelligence agency," as well. -Joseph 17:05, 2004 Sep 1 (UTC)

From the article "The Bureau is also authorised to conduct wiretapping without a warrant. This clause is mostly misused by ruling governments to spy on their political opponents, sometimes indicting them on false criminal charges. The IB also has numerous authors who write letters to various newspapers and magazines to support the government’s perspective." WOW! Can you atleast add an "allegedly"?


 * Yea, it's written in a strange manner, tense shifts regularly, and the "Activities" section is rife with stuff like that. 68.39.174.238 17:31, 11 July 2006 (UTC)

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Changes on Article
Reverted to earlier good version. Rank equivalence is compared with Indian Police Service (IPS) as IB is Central Police Organisation (CPO) as per Ministry of Home Affairs (MHA). Do not change without citing official source.

Following are indicative list of Official sources 1. Published Government Documents/Reports. 2. Studies by reputed national and international institutes. 3. De-classified files related to IB and RA&W. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 59.98.254.15 (talk) 13:39, 30 June 2018 (UTC)
 * Add an official source or any reliable source here. Is there any? Adamgerber80 (talk) 01:32, 1 July 2018 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 12 July 2018
Here earlier you have mentioned security assistant equivalent to head constable but now constable and you have removed Additional superitendent without reference, please make correction regarding this. 2405:204:340B:16EC:7124:447A:E1B4:44F1 (talk) 15:27, 12 July 2018 (UTC)
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Semi-protected edit request on 20 July 2018
A Four star general ranked officer. Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. &#8209;&#8209; El Hef  ( Meep? ) 13:58, 20 July 2018 (UTC)
 * Director Intelligence Bureau Highest ranking IPS Officer
 * Special Director (Director General)
 * Additional Director (Additional Director General)
 * Joint Director (Inspector General)
 * Deputy Director (Deputy Inspector General)
 * Additional Deputy Director (Additional Deputy Inspector General of Police)
 * Joint Deputy Director ( joint Deputy Inspector General of Police)
 * Assistant Director (Assistant Inspector General of Police) equivalent to Assistant Inspector General of Police ,please refer SPG DO letter dated 10th April 2018 regarding deputation of Assistant Inspector General and equivalent rank in pay scale. Moreover Civil Services (Revised Pay) Seventh Amendment Rules,1960 places this post a higher than the Superintendent of Police Special Police Establishment (Delhi Police).Assistant Director is a selection Grade Post as per Indian Police Service (Pay) Rules 2007. refer THE INDIAN POLICE SERVICE (UNIFORM) RULES, 1954 the officers in senior scale i.e for Assistant Director with 15 years in service the uniform is Assistant Inspector General of Police.
 * Deputy Central Intelligence Officer (Additional Superintendent of police) this is a IPS level post
 * Asst. Central Intelligence Officer I ( Senior Inspector of police/ Inspector in CBI/Assistant Commissioner of Police in Delhi Police]))
 * Asst. Central Intelligence Officer II ([[Inspector in police/ Sub inspector (CBI)])
 * Junior Intelligence Officer I (Sub-Inspector)
 * Junior Intelligence Officer II (Asst Sub-Inspector)
 * Security Asst. ( Head Constable) Devkumarddd (talk) 11:39, 20 July 2018 (UTC)


 * https://www.cbic.gov.in/resources//htdocs-cbec/deptt_offcr/vacancy-circulars/circular-SP-CBI.pdf;jsessionid=A82EF62F0C0629F76FAE38DC9D1B39BE
 * https://services.delhi.gov.in/sites/default/files/All-PDF/Intelligence_compressed.pdf
 * https://mharecruitment.in/docs/ACIOTECHIII_Notification.pdf
 * please edit changes i have made. previous entries were wrong. What i have written or edited is 100 percent correct. you can check through cbi, ib and police recruitment rules Amitkausik (talk) 02:38, 20 June 2022 (UTC)

Equivalent stated above is the correct one Bkraj13 (talk) 15:35, 15 August 2018 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 20 July 2018
Deputy Superintendent )
 * Asst. Central Intelligence Officer II (Inspector)
 * Junior Intelligence Officer I (Sub-Inspector)
 * Junior Intelligence Officer II (Head Constable Devkumarddd (talk) 11:49, 20 July 2018 (UTC)
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Semi-protected edit request on 28 May 2020
to substantiate and add to the history of intelligence bureau of India to augment the information provided. Wikiharshit pandey (talk) 06:56, 28 May 2020 (UTC)
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Semi-protected edit request on 26 March 2021
Sr plz ham member banana chahte hai sr plz 2409:4060:2E0B:8A3F:0:0:3FC8:920C (talk) 10:33, 26 March 2021 (UTC)
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Ib
Intelligence bureau 223.223.130.114 (talk) 13:44, 8 June 2022 (UTC)

Ham Radio License in India
Under the 'Activities and Operations' subsections, there's a line that states the following: " One known task of the IB is to clear licences to amateur radio enthusiasts" but with no credible sources to back up that claim.

According to a order posted by the Department of Telecom, the Intelligence Bureau or the MHA for that matter are no longer involved in providing security clearances for licenses except for certain areas. Could this notice https://arsi.info/wp-content/uploads/2020/11/Security_Clearance-OM-R-11014032015-PP.pdf suffice as proof that the IB was involved in granting security clearances? And could someone with sufficient privileges also add a line or two stating the IB is no longer involved in granting security clearances except for certain areas? Wpakxl (talk) 10:47, 6 August 2022 (UTC)

Ib
Intelligence bureau 223.223.130.114 (talk) 13:44, 8 June 2022 (UTC)

Ham Radio License in India
Under the 'Activities and Operations' subsections, there's a line that states the following: " One known task of the IB is to clear licences to amateur radio enthusiasts" but with no credible sources to back up that claim.

According to a order posted by the Department of Telecom, the Intelligence Bureau or the MHA for that matter are no longer involved in providing security clearances for licenses except for certain areas. Could this notice https://arsi.info/wp-content/uploads/2020/11/Security_Clearance-OM-R-11014032015-PP.pdf suffice as proof that the IB was involved in granting security clearances? And could someone with sufficient privileges also add a line or two stating the IB is no longer involved in granting security clearances except for certain areas? Wpakxl (talk) 10:47, 6 August 2022 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 17 January 2023
AD/JDD/ADD are all Assistant Inspector General of Police ranks as per SPG Government of India official DO letter date 18 April 2018.

ACIO-II is equivalent to Sr Inspector ACIO-I is equivalent to Dy. SP DCIO is a Group 'A' Gazzeted officer usually of rank equivalent to Additional Superintendent of Police Assitant Director is equivalent to Assistant Inspector General of Police Joint Deputy director is equivalent to joint Deputy Inspector General of Police Additional Deputy Director is equivalent to Additional Deputy Inspector General of Police Deputy Director is equivalent to Deputy Inspector General of Police Joint Director is equivalent to Inspector General of Police Additional Director is equivalent to Additional Director General of Police Special Director is equivalent to Director General of Police Director Intelligence Bureau --4 Star IPS officer and the senior most IPS in India so no police equivalent-- Theindiandefencebrat (talk) 00:10, 18 January 2023 (UTC)
 * Red information icon with gradient background.svg Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. —Compassionate727 (T·C) 00:19, 18 January 2023 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 9 September 2023
security assistant is equivalent to Constable Zsus1 (talk) 13:46, 9 September 2023 (UTC)
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Training
This clause is mostly misused by ruling governments to spy on their political opponents, sometimes indicting them on false criminal charges. The IB also has numerous authors who write letters to various newspapers and magazines to support the government’s perspective." WOW! Can you atleast add an "allegedly"?

Yea, it's written in a strange manner, tense shifts regularly, and the "Activities" section is rife with stuff like that. 68.39.174.238 17:31, 11 July 2006 (UTC) Training[edit] kjniiknnmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm where are the training centers of IB in India (& abroad if any) ? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 59.93.208.196 (talk) 12:55, 17 September 2010 (UTC)

how is the recruitment done and what happens initially must be briefly jotted. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 117.203.234.147 (talk) 09:45, 24 July 2011 (UTC)

The superior and highly special training of the ACIO-II batch used to be in Mount Abu. The training for ACIO-II is done in Madhya Pradesh and New Delhi. The training details of se where are the training centers of IB in India (& abroad if any) ? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 59.93.208.196 (talk) 12:55, 17 September 2010 (UTC)

how is the recruitment done and what happens initially must be briefly jotted. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 117.203.234.147 (talk) 09:45, 24 July 2011 (UTC)

The training for ACIO-II is done in Madhya Pradesh and New Delhi. The training details of senior officials is confidential.

For recruitment of Group A officers, mostly it is by deputation from Indian Police Service (IPS) and other Group A Central services after some minimum years of service in parent cadre. Union Public Service Commission (UPSC) conducts exams for certain Group A officers in Intelligence Bureau.

Recruitment for personal belonging to Group B, C and D is through competitive exams conducted by Ministry of Home Affairs (MHA) and Staff Selection Commission (SSC).

Semi-protected edit request on 25 January 2024
Ranks and Insignia : SA - Constable JIO 2 - HC JIO 1 - ASI ACIO 2 - SI ACIO 1 - Senior Inspector DCIO - DySP Joint Assistant Director (JAD) [abolished rank]- Addl. SP Assistant Director - SP JDD - SSP ADD - Additional DIG DD - DIG JD - IG AX - ADG SD - DG DIB - Seniormost IPS Arakol (talk) 17:34, 25 January 2024 (UTC) — Urro[ talk ] [ edits ] 17:48, 25 January 2024 (UTC)
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