Talk:International Air Transport Association

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History
This section doesn't contain anything about IATA's split into a so-called "Tariff Co-ordination Committee" that set minimum fares for all members on a route-by-route basis on the one hand and the Trade Association on the other. It also dosen't mention IATA's controversial role during the pre-liberalisation era as the "extended arm" of predominatly government-owned national flag carriers that used the organisation as a tool to stifle meaningful competition between member airlines, especially those that were not backed financially by their respective governments - eg British United/British Caledonian, Canadian Pacific Airlines/Canadian Airlines International, UTA etc - and non-members - eg Caledonian Airways, Laker Airways etc, as well as the universal application of the unanimity rule - ie IATA's inability to take decisions on anything without unanimous approval by the entire membership. It looks to me as if the brief sentence in that section has somehow been copied from the IATA website - a bit like sourcing info about the harmful effects of smoking from a website representing the views of the tobacco industry. DeccanAviator 18:50, 20 August 2009 (GMT)  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 91.194.221.231 (talk)

Dangerous Goods Transport
So far as I'm aware, the following sentence is about 20 years out of date:


 * They also regulate the shipping of dangerous goods and publish the IATA Dangerous Goods Regulations manual, a globally accepted field source reference for airlines shipping hazardous materials.

I think this responisibility passed to ICAO in the early 1980s jmd 13:21, 30 September 2005 (UTC)

The legally binding document for the transportation of dangerous goods by air is indeed the ICAO manual, however the IATA Dangerous Goods Regulations remain the first choice of airlines and airports all over the world as they are easier to use than ICAO. If you should find yourself on the wrong side of the law then the CAA or FAA will quote from the ICAO Regulations in court, but the IATA Regulations are preferred for daily use.

membership
"IATA represents some 230 airlines comprising 93% of scheduled international air traffic...Currently, IATA is present in over 150 countries covered through 101 offices around the globe." It would be interesting to know who is or isn't a member, perhaps by country? This is too vague. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 147.9.203.145 (talk) 09:56, 16 April 2010 (UTC)

Question
Can anyone explain how and why Canadian airports got stuck with the Y prefix? Steelium 3:05, 19 February 2006 (UTC)

Someone should vix the link for VS at the top of the article, right now it just goes to a dis ambig. page.

goals
IATA's goals are: is a commercial statement, better to remove the whole section.Mion 21:31, 23 May 2006 (UTC)

Fair use rationale for Image:IATA.png
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Date of use of three-letter codes?
Anyone know the date that the IATA started assigning the three-letter codes to airports? 216.203.62.5 (talk) 00:07, 13 April 2010 (UTC)

Copyright problem removed
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"international fare prices have been set through bilateral governmental agreements rather than through market mechanisms..." THIS IS CALLED STATE MONOPOLY CAPITALISM YOU IDIOTS. READ VLADIMIR LENIN'S IMPERIALISM THE LAST STAGE OF CAPITALISM — Preceding unsigned comment added by 8.225.200.133 (talk) 18:01, 23 August 2013 (UTC)

84%?
"....small proportion of the world’s airlines. These 240 airlines, primarily major carriers, equate to approximately 84% of total Available Seat Kilometers air traffic"

84% is a large proportion not a small proportion. Who writes this crap? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:7:8500:982:20A5:DA3:8DBA:F837 (talk) 23:02, 11 August 2014 (UTC)

Citations verified
Hi,

All necessary citations to this article have been added. Is it possible to remove the box at the top of the article?

Thank you82.28.205.116 (talk) 13:30, 15 February 2015 (UTC)

Facilitate
I will like to know five ways in which IATA facilitate international air travel — Preceding unsigned comment added by Kwiastic (talk • contribs) 17:46, 18 June 2015 (UTC)

Reliable sources to expand article
Can this page be considered a reliable source for this article? 69.165.196.103 (talk) 01:32, 16 August 2017 (UTC)

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Lead
Search results for "IATA":
 * JSTOR
 * Hein Online
 * Google Scholar

Most academic papers about IATA focus on its price fixing activities. Per WP:DUE, this article does so as well. Therefore, per MOS:LEAD, it is appropriate to mention price fixing in the lead. — BillHPike (talk, contribs) 17:16, 3 February 2020 (UTC)


 * @Billhpike sure. I didn't remove cartel. it is still in the lead per MOS:LEAD. Also, per MOS:LEAD: the lead section is an introduction to an article and a summary of its most important contents. It is located at the beginning of the article, before the table of contents and the first heading. It is not a news-style lead or "lede" paragraph. M.M.Kargan (talk) 09:37, 13 February 2023 (UTC)
 * Thanks . In scholarly sources, IATA's activities as cartel are given overwhelming weight, so I feel such activities must be given prominent mention in the lead per MOS:LEADREL.
 * Over the last year or so, the lead section has been altered by several editors who have otherwise made minimal edits to the encyclopedia. I welcome scrutiny of my reverts, so I've posted at WT:Aviation — BillHPike (talk, contribs) 16:10, 13 February 2023 (UTC)
 * I am trying to understand why the opinion of actions as a cartel is mentioned prominently since MOS:LEADREL mentions "Significant information should not appear in the lead, apart from basic facts, if it is not covered in the remainder of the article". Cartel is not a basic fact but an opinion by some sources but no major organization and this cartel business is not mentioned at all in the remainder of the article. redlegsfan21 (talk) 14:17, 5 June 2024 (UTC)

List of socks that have attempted to edit the lead
For future reference, here is a list of confirmed socks that have attempted to remove the consensus lead: Numerous other IPs or low edit accounts have also made similar edits. — BillHPike (talk, contribs) 00:09, 6 March 2023 (UTC)

definite article before the association's acronym
Normal English usage is without a definite article. It thus resembles CNN and not the BBC. In parts of the article, however, the preceding definite article is used, and this is irregular. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 168.149.241.58 (talk) 16:36, 14 December 2022 (UTC)