Talk:International Council of Unitarians and Universalists

Untitled
Some of the groups in Emerging Groups and Other Associates are too small even to have names. I'm not sure how to properly format these.Tydaj 21:51, 12 Mar 2005 (UTC)

Question about Full Members list
I just posted at Unitarian Universalism and came over here to check if the info was similar. There's one discrepancy. The source I'm working with says that UU groups in the Philippines are counted as a single member of the UUA (which would make sense given US colonial/immigration history). But in our list here, the Filipino assembly is listed as separate/independent from the UUA.

Which is correct? Here's the relevant chunk of source material:

"The 1000 congregations, 161,000 adult members, and 54,000 children who comprise the Unitarian Universalist Association reside primarily in the United States of America, though thirty congregations (totaling 2000 members) in the Philippines are treated as a single member congregation of the UUA. The International Council of Unitarians and Universalists comprises seventeen full members, the largest of which are the UUA, the Unitarian Church of Transylvania (60,000 members), the Unitarian Church in Hungary (25,000 members), the Khasi Unitarian Union in India (9000 members), the Canadian Unitarian Council (5150 members), and the General Assembly of Unitarian and Free Churches in Great Britain (4300 members). The International Association for Religious Freedom (formerly the International Council of Unitarian and Other Liberal Religious Thinkers and Workers) includes liberal groups rooted in many world faiths, notably the Brahmo Samaj of India."

From Daniel McKanan, "Unitarianism, Universalism, and Unitarian Universalism," Religion Compass 7/1 (2013), 15 (full article runs pages 15-24). Ath271 (talk) 16:39, 15 August 2014 (UTC)

After almost 3 years, I suppose that my answer may be moot, but there's an explanation. Prior to the founding of ICUU, there were 4 UU groups located outside the USA that were members of UUA due to the lack of any other governing body: the CUC, the Philippines, Japan, and the UU Fellowship of Paris (France). All 4 were grandfathered when ICUU was created in 1995, but other than Paris (of which I was a member for over 20 years) I don't know if any of the others might still be affiliated with UUA (I know for certain that the CUC is not). Somewhere in an unpacked box (trans-Atlantic moves are brutal) I might still have an official UUA statement about this from the late 90s... maybe someday I can post a more authoritative statement. BruceME (talk) 18:39, 30 May 2017 (UTC)

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Soapboxing?
This article (and the one on Unitarian Universalist Association) seem to me to be soapboxing and taking much more space than they deserve, in view of the general lack of verification and the dubious quality of some citations. For instance, check out the contradictions between this 2012 article about membership growth and this 2011 one about declining membership. The advertising content on 'principles and purposes' needs to be removed or, at most, referred to an official website or citation. The lengthy lists of "members" also needs to be better justified and heavily pruned. Bjenks (talk) 03:05, 16 January 2020 (UTC)