Talk:International Federation for Therapeutic and Counseling Choice

History and advocacy
In History and advocacy the section begins, "The IFTCC is led by Mike Davidson, who describes himself as "ex-homosexual",". How is this acceptable? If Mike Davidson identifies as an ex-homosexual, then that is how people should refer to him, just as we are expected to refer to people by their self identified sexual orientation or gender. It shows bias and phobia to say he "describes himself as "ex-homosexual". Scottca075 (talk) 18:22, 3 March 2023 (UTC)


 * That's a good question, perhaps one that requires larger community discussion at WP:NPOVN. The simplest reasoning I can give you is based on WP:FRINGE. The ex-gay movement is based on saying you were a gay person, but then stopped being gay, ie claiming your sexual orientation can change (which medical consensus disagrees with, finding sexual orientation to be immutable). There's a difference between "I thought I was gay, then realized I was straight/bi", with your underlying sexual attraction not changing but just how you label it, and "I was gay, and have since been cured of my homosexuality", indicating your sexuality can change. AFAICT, nowhere in the encylcopedia do we say people "are ex-gay" in wikivoice. TheTranarchist ⚧ Ⓐ (talk) 18:37, 3 March 2023 (UTC)