Talk:International Harvester

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Case New Holland owns the International Harvester brand and the logo on this home page. Navistar is the newer name for International Truck & Engine Corporation and the logo is different. The rest of the stuff on this page may be a decent history of IH but it ends with Case New Holland acquiring IH, not Navistar.

Now Case is known as Case IH. http://www.caseih.com/about/about.aspx?contentid=137&RL=ENAN&navid= http://www.scottsupplyco.com/company.html http://www.toytractorshow.com/cnh1.htm 65.24.80.143 22:20, 2 November 2006 (UTC)

The name
While looking at the website listed, (nav-international.com) I saw that there was no mention that their name was Navistar International. The changes should be discussed. Onekopaka 05:36, 5 June 2007 (UTC)

International Harvester nearly went bankrupt during the agriculture downturn of the early 1980's. In 1985 Harvester sold many of its divisions including the construction division to Dresser Industries and the agriculture division to Tenneco, Inc. The only parts of Harvester left were the truck and engine divisions, and the company changed its name from International Harvester Company to Navistar International Corporation in 1986. The company now uses the "International" name on its products. The "International Harvester" name and "IH" logo is being used today by the "Case IH" division of CNH Global, N.V. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.220.138.94 (talk • contribs) 16:04, 16 August 2007 (UTC)

Much improved but this is still a disappointing article. No mention is made of the K series trucks that made such an important contribution to the WWII US Lend-Lease program. WWII just wouldn't have been so much fun without the IH K7 truck. RJD — Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.216.170.63 (talk) 23:42, 11 February 2021 (UTC)

Major changes needed
Can someone include the history of IH's ownership of Solar Turbines, which is based in San Diego? When IH sold Solar to Caterpillar for $505 million in cash, it was the largest cash transaction ever recorded. I think it was in 1981 or 1982. Also, there should be some mention of IH being a component of the DJIA for many years. 76.197.3.233 (talk) 06:53, 6 July 2010 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.197.3.233 (talk) 06:52, 6 July 2010 (UTC) I was disappointed when i first saw this article. IHC was a MAJOR company. You can still see many of their products still being used daily. This article needs a major cleanup and should not be associated with Navistar as much as it currently is. Hopefully in short time, this article will be decent enough that people who come here can get a good feel about this company history. Caster23 22:52, 27 July 2007 (UTC)
 * I have started by putting a new infobox (defunct company)and rewriting the opening paragraph. The merger tag was removed because this article will soon be sufficiently written that no one will even think about merging with a company that really has nothing to do with it today. Caster23 22:52, 27 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Well the article is coming along now. The agricultural division is primarily about tractors, but i cant see why it shouldn't be as tractors is what kept the company alive. A section about other farm related item should be added to the ag section too. Also, the home section needs information about the products offered to non-farmers, and farmers, alike. Caster23 19:01, 29 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Note: I only have one source (a good book) for all the updates I've done in the Ag section and have cited it once (maybe twice?) in that section. Caster23 22:25, 29 July 2007 (UTC)

Great work, Caster23! Since I added the merge tags, I finally feel I can unwatch Navistar and International Harvester. I really didn't know much about the subject, so I couldn't improve them myself. Congratulations :) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Waldir (talk • contribs) 18:34, 30 July 2007 (UTC)

It may by the hour of the night but I saw no reference to International Harvester getting into home appliances, products far removed from farm equipment, more of the sort one would expect from Philco and other electronics manufacturers. I say this because we had an IH refrigerator in our home when I was growing up in the 50s-60s,--it's the only one I've seen bearing that name--and I can't help but wonder if IH got into other kinds of home products.

John 4/27/15 — Preceding unsigned comment added by Telegonus (talk • contribs) 09:40, 27 April 2015 (UTC)


 * There is already a section on home appliances. n2xjk (talk) 13:40, 27 April 2015 (UTC)

Thanks. I don't know how I could have missed it.

History of the strike
The section about the strike needs to be changed. My father worked for IH & went through this. The strike happened because Archie wanted to remodel ALL of the aging plants, but didn't want to pay unemployment. So, when contract negotiations started, management STOOD on the fact of mandatory overtime. The workers could be called in at anytime - something the Union had fought in the past but IH never pursued.

The strike ended the day contraction was finished & they took mandatory OT off the table. When everyone got back to work, most of their tools & belonging had been stolen or were damaged by the crews working on the plant. IH had to pay to fix all of this.

Someone has written about this, I think we need to use it & amend this part of the article. Thanks! Kmac1036 (talk) 02:10, 2 May 2008 (UTC)

Construction Plant + UK Operations of IH
The Construction machinery (plant) get little mention yet at one stage IH were a major player in this sector taking over various firms and building some of the largest machines available in the 40 & 50s. Building crawler tractors and bulldozers from the 1920s. Taking over Hough Loaders Line. Moving on to build motor scrapers and large loader under the Payline brand. The Industrial products division range of Engineering machinery was part of IH before being sold off to Dresser during the 80s recession.

Dresser gets a brief mention above but not in main article. Dresser then merged with Komatsu of Japan.

UK arm of IH appears to be absent, but was a large operation with tractors and other products sold world wide. UK factory was merged with David Brown (Case) as part of Case - IH merger. with Case uk production moving there. Factory has now been Streamline and may have finished completely.

Article requires some filling out to give a balanced history of the company.

BulldozerD11 (talk) 15:00, 27 May 2008 (UTC)

redlink
Who's the idiot that made the caseih redlink? Daniel Christensen (talk) 18:16, 5 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Can you explain what you are on about in a civil manner please (per WP:Civil), as looking at the article history for 2009, I cannot see a red link to CaseIH being created recently ? - BulldozerD11 (talk) 02:36, 7 March 2009 (UTC)

Vehicles
No mention is made of the once-ubiquitous IH Metro van. LorenzoB (talk) 16:59, 22 July 2009 (UTC)

I noticed this too, a model produced for 4 decades seems worthy of mention. Where do you think it should be mentioned and what about the purchase of the Metropolitan Body Co. of Bridgeport, CT? --Scalhotrod - Just your average banjo playing, drag racing, cowboy... (talk) 17:41, 12 August 2012 (UTC)

Product Lines
Might be helpful to talk about product line names. For example, the McCormick-Deering line of tractors in the 20s. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 198.108.80.100 (talk) 20:05, 20 December 2009 (UTC)

International Harvestor 624
Can anyone tell me what year this model was built?

1965-1972, 24690 Units All european tractors are missing in this article, especially all from Germany. http://www.ihace.de/01_schlepper/0624/624.htm


 * I suggest you try Binderplanet.com and ask your question there. If you're going to add information on the models you mention, you'll need reference material. There is also the archives on the website for the Wisconsin Historical Society. --Scalhotrod - Just your average banjo playing, drag racing, cowboy... (talk) 06:29, 26 March 2013 (UTC)

New section on series
Clearly this section is too large in an already huge article. It should be either spun off into another article or just deleted, all the minor articles are intact. It’s just a thought.

All these series have their own articles, none are very strong, or get much editing. Simple rationalizing. Individual articles have room for good pictures, but little content. And much of that, especially engines, is common to all of them. One common table could get large in both directions, as people added details. One info box describing an entire series is pretty general.

This stuff is just a simple cut and paste, with little editing. Arranged new to old from intro year. If it does become an article, it will need a lot of work

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Ptot caption
I'm thinking the tractor "An International Harvester tractor built in 1920" is somewhat older than 1920, perhaps 1910-12. 198.53.137.96 (talk) 07:00, 1 May 2015 (UTC)


 * Yes, the caption is incorrect. That's an International Harvester Type A. They were built from 1908 to 1913. Ormewood (talk) 01:32, 29 February 2020 (UTC)

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Champion
Article mentions that IHC owned Champion (spark plugs) at one time. Sure this wasn't Champion Tractors (c.1920)? AMCKen (talk) 07:08, 20 April 2016 (UTC)

Identification request?
Can anyone identify this? Four wheel drive duplex, photographed in the Netherlands in 1960. Might be a "D-415" or similar, but I can't read it. There are a few more photos on Commons. Andy Dingley (talk) 22:34, 30 October 2019 (UTC)
 * Perhaps B-414? n2xjk (talk) 15:02, 1 November 2019 (UTC)
 * It looks to me like someone joined two tractors together, maybe two D-436s. The steering wheel of the leading tractor is still there.  Ormewood (talk) 21:34, 27 December 2019 (UTC)
 * Incidentally, this really isn't the place for this kind of request. Talk pages are specifically for discussing potential changes to an article, not general discussions pertaining to the article's subject.Ormewood (talk) 19:34, 5 February 2020 (UTC)