Talk:International LGBTQ+ Travel Association

Contested deletion
This page is not unambiguously promotional, because... (edits have been made to state facts of organization. An organization affiliated with the UNWTO should have a description on Wikipedia) --Joshzorn (talk) 02:19, 16 December 2016 (UTC)

Requested move 7 October 2019

 * The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion. 

The result of the move request was: Moved to International LGBT+ Travel Association. (closed by non-admin page mover) Sceptre (talk) 22:53, 14 October 2019 (UTC)

International Gay and Lesbian Travel Association → ? – page title should be "IGLTA (International LGBTQ+ Travel Association)" the organization is referred as it's acronym, IGLTA. The organization changed the name with it's new branding in March of 2019 to "The International LGBTQ+ Travel Association" but still keeping the acronym as the main organization name. The change from gay & lesbian to LGBTQ+ when spelled out was to better reflect proper terminology for the LGBTQ+ community. In most references the organization is referred to as only IGLTA, therefore the full name is suggested to be within parentheses. https://www.iglta.org/Press-Room/ArtMID/9207/ArticleID/930/IGLTA-INTRODUCES-ALL-NEW-VISUAL-IDENTITY-WITH-REFRESHED-BRANDING-AND-LOGO 2603:3020:24BD:B000:B0A0:F36C:6E14:4A4D (talk) 19:35, 7 October 2019 (UTC)
 * Move to International LGBTQ+ Travel Association?: The provided rationale is not very comprehensible, and Wikipedia never spells out an abbreviation in parentheses like what is suggested here. —BarrelProof (talk) 20:59, 7 October 2019 (UTC)
 * Moving it to may be another possibility. —BarrelProof (talk) 07:32, 14 October 2019 (UTC)
 * Move to IGLTA - International LGBTQ+ Travel Association?: New suggestion to reflect the organization's proper name (see website )(see ITB Berlin exhibitor page . The organization is widely known by the acronym IGLTA and still does business as both acronym and International LGBTQ+ Travel Association. Page title should reflect facts. It is a fact that it is not the International Gay and Lesbian Travel Association since March 5th of 2019. —MrZandToby (talk) 13:49, 8 October 2019 (UTC)
 * As far as I know, Wikipedia does not ever title its articles with both an abbreviation and a spelled-out explanation of the abbreviation. —BarrelProof (talk) 17:44, 8 October 2019 (UTC)
 * In this case, the organization's DBA (doing business as) is "IGLTA - International LGBTQ+ Travel Association" (see ITB Berlin exhibitor page . It would not be a fact based article title if it did not match this. MrZandToby (talk) 16:39, 9 October 2019 (UTC)
 * I strongly disagree. Perhaps you should review WP:OFFICIALNAME. —BarrelProof (talk) 15:21, 11 October 2019 (UTC)


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State of the article
Overall, most of this article reads as if it is the web page of the association, not an objective independent summary. There is lots of unnecessary detail, non-neutral phrasing, discussion of internal matters and award programs and branding campaigns and logos (and who they hired to design the logos) and other things that the reading public does not care about. Please see WP:UNDUE. It is also not formatted in a way that follows Wikipedia guidelines – e.g., it has boldface and all-caps and non-standard numbering and citations in headings. Most of it seems like something written by the organization itself, not like information provided from an independent perspective. And much of it appears to be unsourced. I notice that several of the contributors to the article have been single-purpose accounts and that some of the accounts have been blocked for conflicts of interest or copyright violations. —BarrelProof (talk) 08:05, 15 October 2019 (UTC)