Talk:International border states of the United States

Florida?
I don't see how Florida counts as having an international border. I am going to change this if no one tells me not to. Lukejodonnell (talk) 02:39, 28 February 2016 (UTC)

Untitled
Don't Florida and Alaska belong here, on account of their respective sea borders with Cuba and Russia?
 * Not to mention, Indiana is closer to Canada than Florida to Cuba. Should we count that as "bordering" another country, while we're being liberal with quotation marks?  After all, the land journey from Indiana to Canada is far easier than the sea or air journey from Florida to Cuba. Alvis 04:34, 28 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Good point. Overseas places do not border the USA.  Adding quotation marks is not a logical solution in an encyclopedia.Korky Day (talk) 16:17, 21 June 2008 (UTC)

Article title
Does "Border" need to be capitalized? --Fang Aili talk 19:53, 8 August 2006 (UTC)
 * No.Korky Day (talk) 16:17, 21 June 2008 (UTC)

Florida & Alaska sea borders?
Should we include Hawaii for Taiwan? California for China? Oregon & Washington for Japan. Maybe MA for bordering with Great Britain? As far as Territoral waters they only extend 12 nautical miles, so I doubt Cuba, Russia, etc. are within that definition. I think this article should be limited to those states with a physical shared border, no water in between. Aboutmovies 02:42, 13 January 2007 (UTC)
 * Agreed, unless the "water" is a river or lake. Korky Day (talk) 16:17, 21 June 2008 (UTC)
 * No one is disagreeing, so I'll change it. But I know not how to change the map. Korky Day (talk) 18:19, 26 June 2008 (UTC)
 * I actually do think that Alaska and Florida should be included here since there are no intervening international waters between them and them and neighboring countries. Just because you have to float across the Straits of Florida or the Bering Strait makes then no less international borders than ones on land- just ask the countries involved about mineral, oil, and fishing rights involved! &mdash;Ashanda (talk) 01:37, 30 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Alaska is a border state. It borders Canada. 130.132.200.84 (talk) 05:08, 12 February 2009 (UTC)
 * Actually, Alaska and Russia are just 2.5 miles apart. The Diomede Islands - Little Diomede in Alaska and Big Diomede in Russia - reside in the Bering Strait and are separated by just 2.5 miles of water. Regardless, as another individual pointed out, Alaska borders Canada as well. Phizzy  03:00, 24 April 2009 (UTC)
 * I agree with the idea of listing Alaska as having a water border with Russia, its really no different than the Great Lakes. 2 says you, says two 19:15, 5 February 2010 (UTC)

2024 Addition: To add to this very old discussion... the current table referenceing US-Canada water borders needs to be clarified. The distinctions are not clear. The table includes water borders for states that also have land borders and does not include water borders for other staes that do have them. There's a water boder over a river between Alaska and Canada and bays between Washington and British Columbia, etc.

Definition
Sorry. I never heard of border states for anything other than the Civil War. Definitely not these states. When I googled "border states", I got the Civil War states.

Someone has put a lot of work into this, but it is nonsense, in my opinion. It redefines everyone's conception. It should be totally changed to reflect the Civil War definition: Kentucky, Tenessee, etc. The article, as is, should be moved to (sorry) uncyclopedia.Student7 02:53, 3 July 2007 (UTC)
 * I hear the term often in Canada, so let's keep Wikipedia internationally relevant. Besides, it's just common sense: if it has a border with another country, it's logically a border state; that's how the term got to be used in the Civil War and the term can be used at other times for the exact same reason.Korky Day (talk) 16:17, 21 June 2008 (UTC)

The US-Canada border and US-Mexico border articles are the right place for much of this information. Mysteriously they weren't linked from this article, so I've added that, as well as the relevant categories from those articles.

The criticisms of this article as a neologism, confusing, and US-centric are all correct. I'd support deleting it and moving any useful content that isn't already in other related articles, to those articles. And adding it to the USRegions template is unjustified. --JWB (talk) 02:15, 18 April 2009 (UTC)

Why do Ohio and Pennsylvania get to be "border states" with Canada but Wisconsin does not. Each has only a lake border. Ohio and Pennsylvania on Lake Erie, Wisconsin on Lake Superior.Caelo 77036 (talk) 18:09, 3 March 2010 (UTC)caelo_77036


 * Living in Arizona, I hear discourse of immigration and "border issues" on a regular basis in both a local and national context. To me, the concept of a "border state" is pretty straightforward: a state located on a national border who has to deal with the issues, for better or worse. Perhaps some sort of context like this in the article might help to make the article more relevant. 72.208.49.62 (talk) 06:23, 22 December 2010 (UTC)


 * The difference between Ohio & Pennsylvania and Wisconsin is that Ohio and Pennsylvania actually share an international border with Canada. Wisconsin does not. Phizzy [[Image:SimpleMichigan.svg|30x15px]]  19:32, 1 March 2011 (UTC)

I think Wisconsin is actually *more* similar culturally to Canada than Ohio and Pennsylvania (some elaboration on the previous comment would be appreciated: "Ohio and Pennsylvania actually share an international border with Canada. Wisconsin does not."). That and it is farther north than both of those states. Also, before being admitted to the Union in 1848, Wisconsin's territory included Michigan's Upper Peninsula and northeastern Minnesota, meaning - had Wisconsin not had to get rid of those northern areas, it would have indefinitely bordered the True North. Still, I like to think Wisconsin is pretty well connected to Canada. Pennsylvania, meanwhile, does not border the Atlantic Ocean - thanks to New Jersey. 71.82.237.58 (talk) 02:18, 27 November 2018 (UTC) Wiscipidier 02:12, 27 November 2018 (UTC)71.82.237.58 (talk) 02:18, 27 November 2018 (UTC)

Crystal Island
This article lists Crystal Island as a land border between Ontario and Michigan. Meanwhile, the linked article on Islands in the Detroit River says "There are no islands in the Detroit River that are divided by the international border, as Michigan and Ontario share no land borders at any point."

Which is correct? 2600:6C51:7B7F:DAFF:D527:AFE6:1B9:ECC1 (talk) 06:08, 21 February 2024 (UTC)