Talk:International counter-terrorism activities of the CIA/Archives/2013/September

This article is crap
it`s a mess, TL;DR

76.67.204.239 (talk) 13:54, 29 August 2009 (UTC)

I agree. This is possibly the worst article I have read on all of wikipedia, and I have read MANY articles on wikipedia. The section "Intelligence Community view of terrorism" is not encyclopedic. It is an opinion piece, an editorial, and a lecture. - Dalebert

Proposed name change
This name is too cumbersome, and does not really fit Wikipedia guidelines on articles names. I suggest:
 * CIA anti-terrorism activities

Any objections? Any better suggestions? Ground Zero | t 04:48, 27 January 2008 (UTC)


 * As long as there is at least one word that gets across that the activity is not limited to a single country, or necessarily involving a nation-state, I am open to suggested changes. The specific reason that the "transnational" articles were created was to distinguish them from country-specific discussions. The CIA itself has both regional staff divisions, but also such things as the Counterterrorism Center and Counterproliferation Center, which are both multi-agency and are not limited to geographic areas. Howard C. Berkowitz (talk) 04:55, 27 January 2008 (UTC)

How about:
 * CIA transnational anti-terrorism activities?

Ground Zero | t 18:18, 29 January 2008 (UTC)

Is this a viable current article, or should it take a historical perspective?
Since the US National Counterterrorism Center (NCTC) has moved from CIA to the Office of the Director of National Intelligence, CIA still is involved in counterterror intelligence and possibly operations, but their principal customer is NCTC. Now, CIA will still have the HUMINT role, and presumably analytic support. It will not be the lead agency for estimates and strategic planning on counterterrorism.

Previously, there was a counterterrorism center, which mixed CIA people both from operations and intelligence, with FBI people for the domestic side. The NCTC still is going to have people assigned from both agencies.

CIA certainly has been active in counterterrorism, with some successes and some failures.

I suppose my question is whether or not the new material should go into a "US Intelligence Community Counterterrorism" new article, and this article restricted to how CIA supports that effort, as well as a historical analysis of its contributions. Clandestine Service People still may play a key role; the intelligence side is unclear but could involve the difficult task of HUMINT on tightly closed terrorist groups.

Thoughts? Howard C. Berkowitz (talk) 15:42, 28 January 2008 (UTC)


 * How about make the article be history up to now and define current subsidiary role and then "See also" National Counterterrorism Center which is already a well-developed page. Erxnmedia (talk) 16:18, 28 January 2008 (UTC)

1997 NIE on terrorism
Anyone have links to any declassified parts? 1996-1999 seem to be the the critical period of recognizing the existence of al-Qaeda as a network, although Tenet seems to suggest it was later in the period. The ejection of al-Qaeda from Sudan (see 9/11 commission report) in approximately 1998 suggests that the US knew about it before that date, or how would it know it was being ejected? Is this purely retrospective, or is it really referring to bin Laden's Saudi group (disciples of Azzam) and Egyptian Islamic Jihad (disciples of Qutb) before they joined to form al-Qaeda? Howard C. Berkowitz (talk) 02:49, 6 March 2008 (UTC)

Citation needed for CNN/Peter L. Bergen interview on 1993 World Trade Center bombing
Anyone have a cite? I can't find one, although several source allude to the interview. "Neil Herman, who headed the FBI investigation, noted that despite Yasin's presence in Baghdad, there was no evidence of Iraqi support for the attack. 'We looked at that rather extensively,' he told CNN terrorism analyst Peter L. Bergen."

DCI Counterterrorist Links Dead
The links to the DCI Counterterrorist Center (miss typed as terrorism) in the references are dead. More accurately they look like they were dynamically generated pages and the referencer pasted a useless dynamic page url in. I don't know what is the polite way to remove/fix this is. Feel free to do... Mrbeardy (talk) 02:28, 31 December 2008 (UTC)