Talk:International travel requirements for German citizens

No Visa-on-arrival for India yet
Visa-on-arrival in India was announced earlier this year but is still not yet effective as there seem to be processing issues at the borders. Only some news websites claim that it is already effective, but no official government website (see German Ministry for Foreign Affairs (in German) and Bureau of Immigration, India (in English). --Jot82 (talk) 09:47, 29 November 2012 (UTC)

So when apply the visa on arrival? 85.65.67.101 (talk) 17:03, 27 February 2014 (UTC)

Moving to the USA
WHAT ARE THE REQUIREMENTS FOR SOMEONE MOVING FROM GERMANY TO THE USA AND LIVING WITH AN AMERICAN FAMILY? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 208.114.112.29 (talk) 21:02, 14 March 2013 (UTC)

I guess a green card, but does it really belong to this article, which is about traveling? Helmut — Preceding unsigned comment added by 89.175.248.38 (talk) 07:05, 15 July 2013 (UTC)

Myanmar
Myanmar is missing. At the moment no possibility for TOURISTS to receive visa on arrival, correct entry should be "visa-required". Helmut — Preceding unsigned comment added by 91.122.156.70 (talk) 19:29, 14 July 2013 (UTC)

China
China is missing in the table overview. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 77.116.246.228 (talk) 09:44, 10 August 2013 (UTC)

Somaliland
BOTH links are still broken. A working link for "Lonely Planet" is now. (Sorry, I cannot edit links, and I do not want to break the site.)

Lonely planet says that there is no such thing as "Visa on arrival", which probably means "Visa required" (40 USD).

Wuensche1 (talk) 11:52, 10 February 2018 (UTC)

Edit request on 4 October 2013
119.95.217.38 (talk) 14:08, 4 October 2013 (UTC)30 days on arrival phillipines


 * Yes check.svg Done. Thanks for the heads-up. --Stfg (talk) 16:54, 6 October 2013 (UTC)

Is the Cuban Tourist Card a visa?
The Cuban government differentiates between a Visa and the Tourist Card. Furthermore there is no formal application process necessary, the tourist card is simply handed out on the plane to Cuba. Compared to that, even ESTA is closer to a visa than the Cuban regulations. Therefore I vote to change the color code from red (visa required) to yellow. --MB-one (talk) 09:17, 26 May 2014 (UTC)
 * We differentiate as well, it never says that the Visa is required for Cuba, it says a Tourist Card is required. However given that this Tourist Card must be obtained prior to travel, it's not the same thing as the Dominican tourist card you purchase at the airport on arrival.--Twofortnights (talk) 09:49, 26 May 2014 (UTC)
 * I'm don't know the regulation for Dominic, but that's not important. 1. It is possible to buy a Tourist Card at Cuban airport, even if that's not the normal procedure. (see http://havana.airportcuba.net/customs.html) 2. Tourist Cards are sold (or even handed free of charge) to every visitor, without any further requirement or application process. 3. The color code red means "visa required", and the tourist card is not a visa. Compared to this, even the Visa Waiver Program has more restrictions. --MB-one (talk) 16:57, 26 May 2014 (UTC)
 * As you can see on the actual Tourist Card the full original name is "Visa - Tarjeta del Turista". So if the Cuban authorities themselves call it a visa, who are we to argue the opposite?--Twofortnights (talk) 19:44, 26 May 2014 (UTC)
 * You can buy the tourist card at the Cuban airport (see:, , , ), if you didn't already got it on the plane. That is at least equivalent to a visa on arrival. Airline restrictions are not relevant here, only immigration policies. --MB-one (talk) 12:10, 1 October 2017 (UTC)
 * Hi. It may be available in practice but officially the visa/tourist card must be purchased in advance.--Twofortnights (talk) 12:15, 1 October 2017 (UTC)

Angola
Map (visa free) does not match list entry (visa required, please verify. --2003:63:2A3E:7F01:EC78:DF04:9766:6B92 (talk) 16:12, 16 January 2015 (UTC)
 * And the map doesn't show Angola as visa-free.--Twofortnights (talk) 17:26, 16 January 2015 (UTC)

USA, Canada and Australia
It is my opinion that USA, Canada and Australia shall have a different color than the countries painted dark green, where you can just show up at the border control and show your German passport. The ESTA, eTA and eVisitor must be applied for before the journey and can be denied even if they are legally not a visa. If the same color as eVisa can't be used, a new color is needed. Since this affects citizens of several countries maybe there is some other Talk page which has had this discussion.--BIL (talk) 15:07, 2 December 2016 (UTC)
 * I fully support this! It is really dangerous to show wrong information in the picture! 83.254.138.25 (talk) 21:01, 12 March 2018 (UTC)
 * Actually in the US and Canada you can just show up with German passport, just not at the airport. As for Australia while I agree the WP:NOR says we can't put that into the article as both Australia and the European Commission think otherwise.--Twofortnights (talk) 21:38, 12 March 2018 (UTC)
 * What is the European Commission thinking? As for what Australia says, this article has the source https://www.homeaffairs.gov.au/Trav/Visi/Visi saying "eVisitor (subclass 651) This is a free visa for certain people travelling to Australia." --BIL (talk) 22:16, 12 March 2018 (UTC)
 * There's been numerous reciprocity reports where the EC analyzed whether the eVisitor is an equivalent of a visa or not and their conclusion is that it is not.--Twofortnights (talk) 22:25, 12 March 2018 (UTC)
 * Link? We should prove statement by references, not just use personal trustworthyness. This is the only I quickly found, where Romania, Bulgaria, Croatia claimed that eVisitor is a visa for them, as it is usually granted manually for them, taking a number of days, and often further documents are requested. But the Commission claimed that eVisitor isn't equivalent to a Schengen Visa even when manually processed as Schengen visas have higher requirements. But I haven't claimed that ESTA, eTA and eVisitor are full visas, only that they are not full visa freedom, meaning travellers should apply in advance.--BIL (talk) 13:30, 15 March 2018 (UTC)
 * ,, .--Twofortnights (talk) 16:23, 15 March 2018 (UTC)

Crimea & Angola: edit request for the map
Hi dear map specialists,Crimea should be changed from green to grey on the map, as unfortunately German citizens need a Russian visa now.

As already mentioned, Angola's e-visa possibility should also show up on the map.

Thanx in advance!!!

--Skoklman (talk) 05:56, 29 August 2018 (UTC)
 * Hi. We don't show disputed territories on the map for many many reasons including inability to draw exact borders, inability to decide objectively which disputed regions should be shown, inability to verify which disputed regions have actual control over their borders and immigration and also map clutter which also goes for various autonomous territories. As for Angola, it was decided by editors that the Angolan visa policy is not like other e-Visas. It is more akin to online visa application as the actual visa is issued at the airport, there is no eVisa as such.--Twofortnights (talk) 19:16, 30 August 2018 (UTC)

Thank you for the answer. I can understand some of the reasons though I do not always really share their logic. As I am thankful for any map and have to rely on those who CAN edit them with high respect, I certainly cannot be demanding. I'm stil surprised to hear, that it should not be possible to figuere out borders and which regime has actual control. The border of annexed Crimea is for example shown in googlemaps https://www.google.com/maps/place/Crimean+Peninsula/@45.8883534,33.8259959,8.75z/data=!4m5!3m4!1s0x40eac2a37171b3f7:0x2a6f09e02affbaeb!8m2!3d45.3453029!4d34.4997274 and bing maps. On a world map, small aberration are not visible anyway.... The actual control by Russian forces is proved by hundereds and thousands of renowned newspaper articles and offical statements of Ukrainians, Russians and western countries. Of course, not every rebel group that holds a region for two weeks and tries to issue visas before being defeated should be mentioned. But there are some de-facto regimes that are well established and have been existing for years and decades and therefore are clearly discernable cf. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_states_with_limited_recognition Skoklman (talk) 05:58, 3 October 2018 (UTC)

Thailand and Philippines require fingerprinting
Thailand and Philippines require fingerprints to be taken on arrival. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 223.24.153.114 (talk) 10:11, 19 October 2019 (UTC)

Belarus
I don't remember Belarus being visa-free for Germans. And the Foreign Minstry agrees: https://www.auswaertiges-amt.de/de/aussenpolitik/laender/belarus-node/belarussicherheit/201904 --2001:16B8:31F3:B300:E587:3B5E:AE8A:FBBC (talk) 20:51, 20 May 2021 (UTC)

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