Talk:Intibucá, Intibucá

Working on history
Current text: "Founders of Intibucá came from San Francisco de Ojuera while others abandoned their towns of Tenambla and Taturúbla to create the new settlement. In the population count of 1791 Intibucá was already the head of the parish. It was categorized as a village on 22 September 1848. In 1866 it was a municipality of the department of Gracias (renamed Lempira in 1943). In in 1883 it was categorized as a city and the capital of the new department of Intibucá."

Is a simplification. I'm working on coming up with something more accurate; untangling accounts which seem to be from oral histories. Could take me awhile to put together the story and pin the histories (which anchor on things like people's houses, etc.) to the current maps.... Catrachos (talk) 16:53, 2 January 2018 (UTC)

The description of Lentercali and Eramani are from Honduran accounts referenced in this article. The accounts themselves aren't referenced and all seem to replicate each other in both wording and style. As close as I can get to an original source, boils down to "it has been said". I therefore don't follow that Eramani was inhabited by people of Mayan descent and Lentercali by Lenca people. Furthermore, the scholars Chapman and Rivas, Barón Castro, whose books I've referenced in the article, contend that the Lenca are remnants of Mayan peoples who did not leave the region after the collapse of the Ancient Mayan empire. If so, saying that one town was Lenca and the other was of Mayan descent are really two ways of saying the same thing. What is true is that the indigenous peoples in what is now La Esperanza were largely displaced and/or intermarried in the influx of Ladino (Mestizo) people from other regions. Similar ladino-ization has been occurring at a more leisurely pace in Intibucá as well, most markedly in the urban area, so the populations and cultures of the twin cities of Intibucá and La Esperanza are less distinct today than previously. I wager that from the perspective of an outsider, Lentercali and Eramani were both Lenca settlements, albeit with cultural differences. After Eramani became predominantly Ladino, the remaining indigenous people of Intibucá would say, "they were Mayans, not of us". I'll try to drill down on this as opportunity arises. --Catrachos (talk) 21:31, 12 January 2018 (UTC)