Talk:Into Eternity (band)

Melodic Death Metal
So now there Melodic Death Metal too? I thought they were just Prog Death Metal...
 * Melodic death metal fits their genre. I'd say they are Prog (melodic) Death metal --Dexter prog 23:41, 26 January 2007 (UTC)

I disagree. In my experience, melodeath is generally slower and more atmospheric than into eternity is. Bands like Amon Amarth, Dark Tranquility, ect. don't sound anything like Into Eternity. While Into Eternity is certainly melodic, they aren't "melodic death" as far as belonging to that genre. Here is where i notice into eternity's big influences lie. Power Metal-Progressive Metal-Death Metal-NWOAHM/Metalcore What I propose really, since Into Eternity are hard to class, is that we basically just label them as either an "extreme metal" band, and be sure to mention in the article how difficult it is to class them, or, if we are truly anal retentive, we can label them as progressive death/power. Either way works for me.

I guess it has elements of melodeath... but no way are Into Eternity a melodic death metal group. Progressive metal maybe? They're pretty hard to pidgeonhole. - Kensane (talk) 05:53, 20 September 2008 (UTC)

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Assessment
I have rated this as a Start Class, as it is organized and detailed enough to be above a Stub Class article. I have rated it of low importance, as people are unlikely to be familiar with the subject of the article. Cheers, CP 23:30, 27 August 2007 (UTC)


 * HA! Just you wait.  The band is getting more and more popular.  Blizzard Beast  ''$ODIN' 00:34, 26 February 2008 (UTC)

Clean/Death Vocals????
I think it is compromising to the artist's integrity to refer to a stylistic difference between vocals as clean vocals and death vocals. Vocals are vocals; making this distinction is one of the reasons why Metal gets a bad rap. Please try to think of music as art and not as some movement designed around promoting some image or fad. Progressive rock music and metal should be held to the same standards as any kind of music. It has nothing to do with being or sounding a particlar way. It is not an "industry of cool." It is art, plain and simple. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.60.205.172 (talk) 23:08, 13 August 2008 (UTC)


 * While it surely is an art, there are metal bands and rock bands that clearly sound different from each other. If you have a problem with this then I don't know what to say. And clean vocals are referring to bands that use it as opposed to growls and shrieks, etc in their otherwise aggressive approach, while death vocals are growled and these are death growls and vary from style to style most often. So again why fret for these reasons you say. It doesn't make sense and it's just exclusionism. − ₪ÇɨгcaғucɨҲ₪  kaiden  23:54, 13 August 2008 (UTC)

Exclusionism? I'm having a rough time understanding how my opinion is exclusive. I think that trying to separate what is "metal" and what is "rock" is exclusionist. Genres don't really exist, they are merely used to describe what an artist creates. I'm promoting an appreciation for music that eliminates distinctions that constrict and limit artistic expression.

Metal music is not just about screaming, growling, feeling tough, and banging your head. Metal bands shouldn't think about the differences between "clean" and "death" vocals. It really limits your possibilities. They should just sing and leave it at that. Whatever comes out is their artistic creation. One of my favorite bands is Between the Buried and Me. I would say his vocal range is vast, and he sings very well. But I think it gets really generic sounding when bands try to split time between "singing clean" and "growling." It is a really simplistic way of looking at art and music.

It also undermines the abilities of talented and creative bands to refer to their vocal styles as growling or "death vocals." I don't really care much for bands that have a very generic growl as the basis of their vocals. I don't think that's very creative. I do listen to hundreds of metal bands on a regular basis, and my favorite ones have such good vocals that it would be a disgrace to call their vocals "death vocals." —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.60.205.172 (talk) 22:54, 19 August 2008 (UTC)


 * Whatever you say. − ₪ÇɨгcaғucɨҲ₪  kaiden  23:03, 19 August 2008 (UTC)

Dean Stenberger
I know he was only a touring member between Chris Krall and Stu Block, but would it be worth mentioning him in the former members section? They were originally intending to keep him for the next record, but I guess they had a fallout- I can give a link if you'd like. 68.198.252.107 (talk) 05:07, 7 February 2009 (UTC)

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