Talk:Invisible ships

Requested move 12 September 2023

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The result of the move request was: not moved. (non-admin closure) Alpha3031 (t • c) 13:32, 19 September 2023 (UTC)

Invisible ships → Invisible ships phenomenon – A Google search for "Invisible ships" mostly comes up with information about the Philadelphia Experiment. The myth is very clearly not the primary meaning for this phrase. It's hard to say what the actual title should be, Invisible ships myth could be another possibility, but this shouldn't be it. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 08:02, 12 September 2023 (UTC) — Relisting. BilledMammal (talk) 13:28, 19 September 2023 (UTC)


 * I'd favour Invisible ships myth, given that it is referred to as such in the article. ♦ Dr. Blofeld  10:42, 12 September 2023 (UTC)
 * Agree that "myth" works better ("phenomenon" suggests it's real), but otherwise agree with the move. Andrew Gray (talk) 11:28, 12 September 2023 (UTC)

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 * Oppose, add hatnote, and disambiguate "invisible ship" (singular) - A Google search for "Invisible ships" mostly comes up with information about the Philadelphia Experiment - This is odd. I did the same thing, searching "invisible ships", and the top results are all about this subject or in some cases about neither subject. I'm scrolling and scrolling and haven't come across anything about the Philadelphia Experiment yet. Are you searching without quotes (just any article that returns "invisible" and "ship")? I tried it again in an incognito browser to ensure my results weren't skewed from having worked on this article, and see the same. Seems like something that can be addressed with a hatnote. As for the alternatives, definitely not "phenomenon" since as Andrew says that makes it sound real. Adding myth doesn't really change that much in terms of the Philadelphia Experiment, since that also appears to be [likely] a myth. This subject is also sometimes called "ships not seen", but if we're just searching without quotes, that's going to lead to some ambiguous google results, too, I suspect. &mdash; Rhododendrites  talk \\ 12:52, 12 September 2023 (UTC)
 * Oppose. It's not a real phenomenon, it's at best a hypothesis that almost certainly was not actually true.  Also oppose Invisible ships myth - we don't need to tag "myth" at the end of every topic that isn't true.  We don't have Zeus myth, Flat earth myth, International Jewish conspiracy myth, etc.  The reader can just read the article to find out that it's a myth, "myth" is only needed if there was some call for natural disambiguation which there isn't here.  I don't think anyone interested in the Philadelphia Experiment would look it up by typing in "Invisible ships".  SnowFire (talk) 20:17, 13 September 2023 (UTC)