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Uranium production claim
This article claims that "Iowa State provided one-third of the uranium metal used in the world’s first controlled nuclear chain reaction, or atomic bomb." This seems odd. I thought the first controlled nuclear reaction was Fermi's pile at the U of Chicago; the atomic bomb came after the first reaction. Any help on this? I will edit when I have time later in the semester or early the next if I can research this. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 152.14.222.156 (talk) 20:19, 6 December 2011 (UTC)

Nobel Prize Winners?
Can someone say, who this nobel prize winner was? I'm not able to find this person. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.172.68.177 (talk) 18:35, 21 December 2010 (UTC)

This is no longer a point of contention. We now have a Nobel Prize Winner:

http://www.news.iastate.edu/news/2011/oct/dannynobel — Preceding unsigned comment added by Arroyjose (talk • contribs) 22:43, 5 October 2011 (UTC)

Additional information needed for academics
I've improved the athletic pages about as far as I can. Iowa State now has one of the more complete listings of school athletic information in the Big 12 and arguably the nation. I would like to see the colleges of Iowa State get their own pages or at least expanded articles. I'm currently working on Veterinary Medicine (which still need allot of work), but there are also other pages that need to be created. Please help!--Jaretac (talk) 14:53, 5 June 2009 (UTC)

I'm currently working on putting together pages for each of the colleges. I am trying to make their formats relatively uniform and am basing a lot on the Vet Med page and other universities and their colleges. Check them out.
 * User:DUKyleXY/Iowa State University College of Liberal Arts and Sciences
 * User:DUKyleXY/Iowa State University College of Human Sciences
 * User:DUKyleXY/Iowa State University College of Business
 * User:DUKyleXY/Iowa State University College of Engineering
 * User:DUKyleXY/Iowa State University College of Design
 * User:DUKyleXY/Iowa State University College of Agricultural and Life Sciences
 * User:DUKyleXY/Iowa State University Graduate College

--DUKyleXY (talk) 20:13, 18 September 2009 (UTC)

Thanks user:DUKyleXY! Some work still needs to be done on Business, Human Sciences and LAS pages. Also keep in mind that two of ISU's largest and most respected colleges, Engineering and Agriculture still need pages as well as Design. I'll continue to work on these, but could use help from anyone.--Jaretac (talk) 16:07, 11 July 2010 (UTC)

Things to add
What about the famous OleoMargerine scandal?

Also Iowa State was one of the first places to refine Uranium in the U.S.

The Greenlee School of Journalism is now a major endowed entity. How to include?

There are couple of notable athletes from my era as an undergraduate that deserve recognition: gymnast Ron Galimore and wrestler Nate Carr. They are both Olympians and I believe are members of the University's athletic Hall of Fame. Maybe a link to a Hall of Fame site would be a good way include athletic notables.

I think the fact that Iowa was the first state to accept the terms of the Morril Act, making Iowa State the first land-grant university in the nation should be included.

Chronology
As there is now an individual section detailing when each ISU president entered and left office, perhaps we could remove this information from the chronology table? I feel it really clutters up the chronology with superfluous information. Please respond to this idea here, if it meets no objections I will probably go ahead and do this in the next day or two. Adm58 23:41, Apr 4, 2005 (UTC)


 * Perhaps a real timeline is in order? Template:Timeline US Presidents 2
 * I'd rather they stayed but I'm all for finding a better way to present information... Cburnett 23:46, Apr 4, 2005 (UTC)


 * Like I said, the same info is already available a few lines up on the page. I think having it repeated in the chronology makes it hard to get to the new information available there.


 * I have no objection to a timeline similar to the one you linked, although I find the current Iowa State presidents section to be sufficient. I'll go ahead and remove this info from the chronology if that is alright.  Adm58 23:50, Apr 4, 2005 (UTC)


 * My desire to leave that in is it shows the presidency in relation to other events. To see what happened during a presidents tenure would require first finding the dates of service above then going through the chronology to find the bounded dates.  I guess delete them and we can reevaluate afterward...it's easy to put it back if necessary. Cburnett 00:12, Apr 5, 2005 (UTC)

Space-grant university?
I've been here 6 years and can't name much of anything as to why ISU is a space-grant university. Compared to a school like U of Co @ Boulder, ISU isn't. Oh the things you can learn.... :) Cburnett 20:52, Apr 11, 2005 (UTC)


 * As an aerospace engineer here I can say with confidence we're a space-grant university because we have one of the largest and best aerospace programs in the nation. In fact I'm pretty sure our aerospace program is larger and rated higher than aerospace at Colorado.  It also doesn't hurt that NASA is responsible for at least part of this program and they regularly give us millions of dollars to do research for them.  Tweak13  03:01, Dec 6, 2005 (UTC)

Statue of George Washington Carver
Just wondering if any could take a picture of that statue of George Washington Carver and maybe post for this and/or the article on George Washington Carver?


 * you should sign your comments, but I will try to get a picture for you sometime this week. 71.38.169.142 (talk) 10:08, 10 September 2011 (UTC)

VEISHA Riots
In the "Chronology" section, it lists the 2004 VEISHA riots. There were also riots in 1988, and in 1992. I'm going to add these previous riots, but perhaps all riot listings should be removed. Perhaps the riot info should be under the VEISHA page. 147.155.182.24 (talk) 23:58, 15 March 2008 (UTC)

Box Stats
I am reverting the previous change back to including veterinary students in the stats box. There is already precedents for this with schools that have medical or law schools, (for example the page for University of Kansas) since professional degrees are not included in offcial "post graduate" numbers. Johnandrus (talk) 16:47, 8 September 2011 (UTC)
 * It would be better to take this up on the Talk page of the infobox if it's a genuine problem, especially since there's no reason not to include professional students with other postgraduates.
 * And next time there is a conflict, please post on the article's Talk page and then DISCUSS the issue instead of immediately leaping into an edit war. The idea is to talk with other editors and reach a consensus, not to simply use this as a personal bulletin board to announce your edits. ElKevbo (talk) 21:11, 8 September 2011 (UTC)
 * The university's own numbers don't include vet students in post-graduate numbers, so why should we? Also, if we don't include the numbers for vet students, since the link from the official site doesn't include them, then the undergrads and post grads added together, won't match the number of total students, which will just raise more concerns.  It makes no sense not to just include a separate line so that people are more informed. 71.38.169.142 (talk) 10:03, 10 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Why should we treat this one group of graduate students differently than the rest? I understand that at least a few publications of the university list them separately but that doesn't mean that we have to follow suit.  So what makes this one group of students so different from students in other degree programs that they get their own special listing in an infobox that doesn't even have a standard parameter to accommodate them? ElKevbo (talk) 16:06, 10 September 2011 (UTC)

Just my two cents, but I agree with ElKevbo. The infobox should succinctly sum up the many facts about the university. Veterinary Medicine students is really too specific to fall in to this category. It also makes no sense to show this one substat without including other. Finally, without there being a spot for this value in the template it is not consistent with other Wikipedia articles. Grey Wanderer (talk) 03:15, 11 September 2011 (UTC)

Land-grant designation
I've corrected the (previously uncited) text to clarify that Iowa State was designated the land-grant college in 1864, and included cites to two documents from ISU itself. Iowa was the first state to accept the term of the Merrill Act in 1862, but the ISU designation did not occur until 1864. -Kgwo1972 (talk) 18:22, 9 September 2011 (UTC)

The University of Missouri was founded in 1839. It is the oldest land grant university west of the Mississippi River. Mizzou-robman (talk) 02:29, 4 November 2022 (UTC)

better picture of memorial union needed
The current picture shows the back side of the m.u. How about one showing either the west or the north side. --71.214.216.104 (talk) 23:26, 20 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Someone might also do the same for Morrill Hall, as the current pic also shows its back side. --71.214.208.252 (talk) 02:53, 5 December 2011 (UTC)

ISU Flight School
I know ISU had a flight school in 1993 because I attended it while studying as an exchange student there (I got my Master of Science degree in 9 months at ISU). I am just wondering why there is no website or open source reference on the internet about it because this should be mentioned in this article IMHO.

I found this online as the School is part of the aerospace engineering program which I also attended for the ground course (Students can earn course credits for that.)

I know they have aircrafts such as the Beechcraft KingAir 200, the Rockwell Aerocommander AC500 and the Cessna 414. I know they had the Piper Cherokee also, because I flew it for my Private Pilot License. They use the bigger aircraft for flying the ISU National Basketball team across the country. I know there is also a ROTC based in the campus which should also be mentioned. SSZ (talk) 04:44, 3 September 2014 (UTC)

Please add Traditions section
It is important that a college has some certain tradition section, so that prospect student or any reader perhaps may know interesting facts/traditions of Iowa State University, such as festival of lights, Lancelot and Elaine, the Zodiac, Campaniling, Cardinal and Gold, Cy, Cyclones, Homecoming and etc. 67.0.147.33 (talk) 09:17, 12 December 2014 (UTC)

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Flagship campus claim
Presumably this is actually the University of Iowa, who makes the same claim, though I don't actually see the board of regents using this term, other than for a grant that also goes to UNI, etc. It does conflict with the flagship universities page which lists Iowa. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Stereoman4 (talk • contribs) 13:34, 20 May 2016 (UTC)


 * Changed to "a flagship" per citation I added which did indeed state that Iowa has at least two, the University of Iowa, and Iowa State. Richard Yetalk 07:46, 16 June 2016 (UTC)

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Disagreement about which university affiliations should be in infobox
The "affiliations" parameter of the infobox used in this article currently has the following organizations listed:


 * AAU
 * URA
 * APLU
 * HLC
 * UCAR
 * AAC&U
 * Educause
 * UIA

All of these except for the first two were recently added by Ashutosh2978. I reverted most of these additions but he or she began an edit war to keep them in the article.

The edit war is obviously unnecessary and unwelcome; editors should begin a discussion when another editor reverts their edits instead of simply reverting those edits. Setting that aside, most of these additions are simply unnecessary as the organizations that were added are not ones that help readers understand this university or define it in any meaningful way. AAC&U and EDUCAUSE are open for nearly any U.S. college or university to join; membership in them does not say anything meaningful about the university. Similarly, membership in APLU is open to all public and land-grant universities in the country so membership in it is also not very meaningful. UCAR is a much smaller, more meaningful organization but it's not an affiliation that is meaningful across the entire university as it only says something about a small number of programs. UIA has the potential to be meaningful as it could say something about university-wide programs and priorities but I am unconvinced that it is; editors who think that this organization is so important that it belongs in this infobox should provide evidence supporting their assertion that this is a meaningful affiliation with a university-wide impact. ElKevbo (talk) 14:25, 1 August 2020 (UTC)

"Space-grant" is a not a meaningful institution type
I recently removed "space-grant" from the "type" parameter of this university's infobox using the edit summary "not really a meaningful institutional type but a research program that influences a small number of programs." Ashutosh2978 reverted my edit without any discussion or even an edit summary.

I stand by my edit summary: This is not a meaningful institutional type that defines the university. The National Space Grant College and Fellowship Program is a fine research program but its impact at the university is rather small and focused on only a few programs. It is not at all comparable to the land-grant designation that was formative in the mission of the university and has impacted curricula across many programs. The land-grant status remains a central, defining part of the university's mission and programs (see the university's description of its mission and vision for evidence of this); membership in the sun-grant program is not. ElKevbo (talk) 14:36, 1 August 2020 (UTC).


 * There is a wiki page for National Space Grant College and Fellowship Program (space grant colleges). Lacking a large number of institutions makes it unique (one could argue elite). Ajohnson1984 (talk) 00:28, 3 August 2020 (UTC)Ajohnson1984


 * The program itself is certainly notable; that's why it has its own article. And it certainly has a limited membership. But I think that it also needs to have a profound institution-wide impact for it to be worth including in the infobox and lede; those places are where we only include the most important information that readers should know immediately.
 * Of course, we can and should include this membership later in the appropriate place(s) of the body where we have other research-related details. My only objection is including membership in this research program in the infobox "type" parameter and the lede of this article. "Land-grant" is an accepted type of institution with widespread, thoroughly researched and documented - seriously, there are entire books on this topic - impact; although similarly named, "space-grant" is not at all comparable. (And the same can be said of the other "-grant" programs, too, e.g., sea-grant, urban-grant, sun-grant). ElKevbo (talk) 00:39, 3 August 2020 (UTC)
 * I agree with 's logic here. I do note, however, that University of Michigan, a featured-class article, includes space grant in the infobox, so it should probably be removed there as well. &#123;{u&#124; Sdkb  }&#125;  talk 05:06, 3 August 2020 (UTC)
 * Yes, if there is agreement for these edits in this article then there are several other articles that could also be similarly edited. I want to test the waters in a few articles and see what kind of consensus may already exist or can be easily established before discussing or making edits in many articles at once. ElKevbo (talk) 13:12, 3 August 2020 (UTC)

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Leopold Center for Sustainable Agriculture
Should the Leopold Center for Sustainable Agriculture be mentioned somewhere in the article? Thriley (talk) 06:45, 2 December 2020 (UTC)