Talk:Ip Man 2

The boxing story
Was it not Bruce Lee who out-boxed a British chap in an amateur schools boxing match? I have not come across a story about Yip Man entering a boxing ring. 86.178.163.150 (talk) 18:15, 16 October 2010 (UTC)


 * The boxing story is fictional. I know of some people who actually believe that the Ip Man vs. Twister match did happen in history. 暗無天日  contact me (聯絡) 07:22, 17 October 2010 (UTC)
 * The previous poster is right, "Taylor Milos" never even existed, checked it out on www.boxrec.com just now. I think the character "Taylor Milos" was in fact an amalgam of the heavyweight British Boxers Yip Man actually fought, they basically took the boxers he did fight, and condensed them into a single fictional character to save time.  Yip Man did not beat one Boxer he beat several, actually, but none of them were world class.  I was kinda surprised by that part of the movie I was like "what?...."  I was wondering why they didn't show the other Boxers; to save time, they just combined all the fighters into one and that was that.  If they had gone through each of Yip Man's challenge matches, the movie would have been a good 3 to 4 hours or longer, I guess it was just faster to make up a dude.  Oh yeah, this article could benefit from a "historical accuracy" section, although the whole "loosely based" thing is a sort of disclaimer.  71.221.183.202 (talk)stardingo747  —Preceding undated comment added 03:14, 8 November 2010 (UTC).

Description of plot
I noticed that some editors have been using very interpretive and subjective psychoanalysis of the fictional characters in the show. Can we please stick to a bare neutral synopsis instead of interjecting personal interpretations of the film? Zhanzhao (talk) 14:24, 15 February 2012 (UTC)

"Biography!?"
Ok, I'm not sure if this is really the right place to vent but (no, it's not)... I'm so darn angry. I can't say I'm an expert on the life of Ip Man, but I've been an admirer since studying Wing Chun, and know a moderate amount about his life. And this "biography" is pure fiction from one end to the other. Just a few examples of how far out of whack it is: There seems to be so little regard for even basic facts of Sifu's life, that it seems this film has been created purely as a vehicle for ultra-nationalism. -- 202.63.39.58 (talk) 15:57, 10 August 2012 (UTC)
 * The "Twister Milos" fight, which is the centrepiece of the film, it did happen but not the way the movie was
 * In the film, Sifu is portrayed (by a 44 year old actor) as a handsome young man with one infant child and a pregnant wife. In fact at the time he was nearly 60 years old; nearly bald, with a lined, ageing face; and had 6 children, the oldest of whom were adults with their own students.
 * Sifu is depicted as an impoverised, unemployed outsider. In fact he came from a very wealthy family, had worked as a senior police officer and a businessmanm and had political contacts in Hong Kong. Although his family estates and businesses were expropriated (i.e. stolen) by the communists, he certainly wasn't poor.
 * They're a bit vague about what exactly Sifu is escaping from in Foshan, and why he expects refuge in Hong Kong; they allow the audience to elide that it is something to do with the Japanese occupation as depicted at the end of the first film. However this film is set 4 years after the defeat of Japan. Like millions of other Chinese, he was actually seeking British protection from the Chinese Communist Party. (Hmm, no suprises why they censored that bit!)
 * His first students are depicted as walk-ins who become his disciples after trying to beat him and up. In fact his first classes in Hong Kong were pre-arranged classes for members of the restaurant waiters' union.
 * Leung Sheung is shown as a brash, hot-headed young punk. In fact when he became one of Sifu's disciples he was already 31 years old, and already ranked as a master in White Eyebrow style. Also, every account of his life comments on his quiet modesty.
 * They are shown being forced to move the school only very shortly after opening it. While it is true that it moved several times during the 1950s, the first move wasn't until after they had been open for 4 years and gathered quite a number of students. It wasn't causeed by a riot, but simply because they could no longer fit in the old premises;


 * The article, and if I recall the film did as well, does state that it was only loosely based on real events. Its not a true biography, any more than believing Bruce Lee would introduce himself as Lee Xiao Long at that age. If you wish, you could do a film/real-life comparison like what was done on the | Ted Bundy article, but you'll need proper references and citations for it. Zhanzhao (talk) 17:05, 10 August 2012 (UTC)

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