Talk:Ira Hirsh

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Ira Hirsh '''Ira Hirsh (February 22, 1922 – January 12, 2010) was an American psychologist who made early contributions to the field of audiology and clinical testing testing for hearing issues. He was the Edward Mallinckrodt Distinguished University Professor of Psychology and Audiology at Washington University in St. Louis (WUSTL) and served as president of the Acoustical Society of America. '''
 * I propose that this be the new information presented directly under his name before the biography section begins. It concisely sums up the highlights of his life and important achievements but with more information than what is currently posted.

Biography '''Born in New York, Hirsh earned an A.B. degree from the New York State College for Teachers in Albany, an M.A. from the School of Speech at Northwestern University, and another M.A. and Ph.D. in psychoacoustics from Harvard University. While attending the Northwestern University School of Speech, he worked for a CBS radio station in Chicago, IL as a staff announcer, disc jockey, and radio drama actor after being noted as having “a good ear for music.” After serving in the U.S. Army Air Force, Hirsh conducted research at the Harvard Psycho-Acoustics Laboratory (PAL) under Stanley Smith Stevens. He took a position at the PAL before joining the Central Institute for the Deaf (CID) in 1951. It is noted that Hirsh likely had his first encounter with CID personnel and the equipment they used during WWII in his position as the Aural Rehabilitation officer at Hoff General Hospital in Santa Barbara, California. '''
 * I propose that this be the updated first paragraph under his Biography. This more accurately describes the course of his educational history and transitions into his life after university.

'During his time at CID, Hirsh wrote a well-known audiology textbook, The Measurement of Hearing'' (1952), which was widely published in professional journals and used not just as a textbook, but also a reference for other researchers in the field. The book became so commonly referenced in the field it was later brought back for a second printing. Hirsh also developed and recorded the CID W-22 word list, an auditory tape designed to test an individual’s word recognition function. Following his earlier successes in research, Hirsh was elected as a Fellow of the American Psychological Association and was named a member of the National Research Council’s Committee on Hearing and Bioacoustics. He made observations about the brain's processing of speech over various time intervals and reported his experimental findings on recovery of the ear following auditory fatigue produced by loud or damaging tones. He presented many of these ideas at meetings of the Acoustical Society, as well as in his next published research book, American Standard for Measuring the Noise Exclusion Characteristics of Ear Protectors. '''
 * I propose that this be the updated second paragraph under the Biography section. This paragraph briefly displays his early successes in the field and leads into what he did later in life as well as why he did it.

'''Subsequent to his in-depth research and publishing, in the August of 1955, he taught at the Institute on Industrial Audiology at Colby College in Maine. As president of the Acoustical Society of America (ASA), Hirsh received the ASA Gold Medal and Biennial Award of the Society “in recognition of outstanding contributions to the science of acoustics.”  This award is only given to a member of the ASA who is 35 years of age or younger and has greatly contributed, through published papers, to the expansion of theoretical or applied acoustics. Later that year, Hirsh would go on to be elected onto the Executive Council of the American Speech and Hearing Association (ASHA), as well as serve as a consultant on an acoustics research team at the University of Pittsburgh. In his continuation of sharing his research, Hirsh went on to lecture on the sciences behind audiology and acoustics at a number of universities including the University of Illinois, University of Southern Illinois, Washington University School of Medicine, and at a research seminar at the Children’s Hospital in Los Angeles. He continued on to Washington D.C. to present his paper on "Auditory Perception of Temporal Order" before the American Psychological Association. '''
 * I propose that this be the updated third paragraph under the Biography section. This paragraph is simply informational in where he shared his research and presents a base level of legitimacy.

'''From August 1962 to August 1963 Hirsh was granted a leave of absence by the CID Board of Managers to accept the position of Visiting Professor at the University of Paris. Before leaving for a year of teaching and research in Paris, Hirsh “attended the International Acoustical Conference at Copenhagen, Denmark, and the International Standards’ Organization meeting in Baden-Baden, W. Germany.” '''
 * I propose that this be the updated fourth paragraph under the Biography section. Once again, a simple description of his academic travels.

'''On July 1st, 1969, Hirsh was appointed as Dean of the Faculty of Arts and Sciences at Washington University, where he continued to also take on responsibilities as the Director of Research at CID. Chancellor Eliot of WUSTL described Hirsh’s “great ability and international eminence,” as well as the University’s “close and enduring relationship with the Central Institute for the Deaf.” Mrs. Shirley Hirsh, Hirsh's wife, also worked at CID researching Evoked Response Audiometry and measuring evoked cortical potentials in infant responses to sound. '''


 * I propose that this be the updated fifth paragraph under the biography section. This paragraph was added to transition to the final paragraph while adding firsthand accounts of how his findings influenced real world individuals.

'''Throughout his life, Hirsh was awarded many other titles, including becoming the Chairman of the Joint Armed Forces National Academy of Sciences, becoming a consultant to the Department of Transportation, a consultant to the National Institutes of Health, being distinguished as a remarkable alumnus of the State University of New York at Albany, becoming elected as an honorary member of Phi Beta Kappa, being made an Advisory Consultant to the Communicative Disorders Program, and being inducted into the National Academy of Sciences in 1979. '''


 * I propose that this be the updated sixth paragraph under the biography section. This paragraph simply lists more of his awards and affiliations he achieved throughout his lifetime and concluding what information I had about him.

Personal life '''In their spare time, Hirsh and his wife Shirley participated in ice dancing. Hirsh sang in the choir at the First Unitarian Church of St. Louis and was a member of the Saint Louis Chamber Chorus and the Bach Society of St. Louis. Upon his wife's 2004 death, Hirsh had been married for 61 years. He had four children. Hirsh died in 2010 in a convalescent center in Durham, North Carolina. '''


 * This was already on the page and I believe it is a good representation of what we know about his personal life. It was already written by another editor on the page and, in my opinion, served as a good final paragraph which would likely work best under a separate section labelled "Personal life". I did not write/edit this paragraph whatsoever.

Washuthomas (talk) 17:53, 25 June 2018 (UTC)

Reply 25-JUN-2018

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