Talk:Irish Air Corps/Archive 1

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Who's responsible for defending Irish air space?


 * To the best of my knowledge the Irish Air Corps is primarily responsible. Although I think certain other parts of the Irish Defence Forces also bare that responsibility, such as the anti-aircraft systems that some units in the Irish Army (and possibly the Navy) have. Though if I was being honest, I'd say no-one is really defending Irish Airspace. --Hibernian 19:03, 20 March 2007 (UTC)

In practice the RAF patrols Irish airspace; if anyone can incorporate that without sparking a massive Anglo-Irish edit war then go ahead. Yasha80.41.95.25 12:42, 7 July 2007 (UTC)

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Copy and paste from Tribune and Irish Times
To the anon/vodafone mobile contributor who continues to post the same "copied and pasted" content from the Tribune and Irish Times: We cannot accept copyright materials. That content is a verbatim copy and paste from two copyrighted sources.. It therefore cannot be included here in that form. If you MUST include some details on the controversies involving the Ministerial Transport Service, then SUMMARISE in your own words. But note that Wikipedia is not a new site - nor is it a soapbox for pushing agendas or analysis on current events! Guliolopez (talk) 15:36, 3 November 2009 (UTC)

Motto
Forḟaire agus Tairiseaċt (Forfhaire agus Tairiseacht or Foraire agus Tairise in standardised spelling) literally means "Watching/Guarding and Loyalty/Steadfastness". Is "Watchful and Loyal" the official translation? I couldn't find any reference to either at http://mileata.ie/aircorps/index.htm ☸ Moilleadóir ☎ 11:38, 14 January 2010 (UTC)

Fighter retirement
The New Zealand Air Force article mentions the decision to terminate the fighter ability of the AF. Here, though, they just "fade away", with no reason or mention to the fact. BrickBreak (talk) 11:30, 6 March 2010 (UTC)

"Army Air Corps" v "Air Force"
The newly updated intro states that the Air Corps is closer to an "Army Air Corps" than an "Air Force". If I understand this correctly, what I think we're saying here is that the Air Corps operates more like an air support division of the army, rather than as a distinct/stand-alone force. If this is what we're saying, are there are any available cites to support this assertion? Or, at the very least, is there some clarification of wording (or definition of "Army Air Corps" v "Air Force") to explain this to the reader? Right now I don't think the intro is particularly clear in this regard. Guliolopez (talk) 15:49, 28 September 2010 (UTC)
 * Actually - scratch that - I'm going to have to revert the whole thing. Because it's yet another COPYVIO copy and paste job from a third-party source. Guliolopez (talk) 15:50, 28 September 2010 (UTC)

Libya evacuation
I know this is a developing story, but it already seems to be a significant enough major operation to include. I'm presuming the two aircraft are the Learjet and the Gulfstream (the RTE picture may just be stock), rather than the CN-235s, but if anyone can dig up usable confirmation, that would be useful. Nick Cooper (talk) 08:50, 23 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Ah, seems it's the Learjet and one CN-235, after all. Nick Cooper (talk) 19:08, 23 February 2011 (UTC)

Cessna
Cessna's are a US company you have it listed as French — Preceding unsigned comment added by 79.97.111.246 (talk) 13:46, 25 April 2012 (UTC)
 * Hi. That column doesn't refer to the origin of the aircraft company. Rather to the origin of the aircraft. The Air Corps fly the Reims Cessna FR172H Rocket. These were built in Reims in France by Reims-Cessna. Hence it is valid to reference "France" as the origin of these aircraft. Guliolopez (talk) 14:40, 25 April 2012 (UTC)

Insignia Incorrectly Drawn
The three colour whirligig is incorrectly drawn. The correct construction is three semi-circles dispersed at 120º. Photographs of current aircraft illustrate that. The 1922 roundel design is incorrectly proportioned too. It should follow the 1:3:5 proportions of the RAF insignia of the period as it was a straight repaint. Sir smellybeard (talk) 19:15, 4 March 2013 (UTC)

ENGVAR
Do we really need a large template at the top of this article? Disrupting the article for all readers - to address a concern/issue that may be relevant to a small percentage? It's the only article I can see where this template is used in this way. In all other cases it's used (where it makes sense IMO) on the talk page! Guliolopez (talk) 11:04, 8 November 2013 (UTC)
 * Dont fully know how that happened. All I done was change OhConfucius' engvarB template to Irish English, as I have done on others and its seems to have of pop up top. How do we tone it done as was the way with the engvarb template? Murry1975 (talk) 20:39, 8 November 2013 (UTC)
 * Fixed. Sorry. (Blushes.) Murry1975 (talk) 20:53, 8 November 2013 (UTC)

Cessna part II
The article lists 1 Cessna 172 but the source (http://www.military.ie/en/air-corps/fleet/cessna-172/) says there are 5 in service. I'm afraid I don't know how to edit Boreas74 Speak Softly 13:36, 24 February 2015 (UTC)
 * ✅ - FOX 52 (talk) 16:58, 24 February 2015 (UTC)

Future of the Air Corps?
Not sure if this is the right place for this conversation, but apparently the Air Corps is planning an expanded role in the future, possibly over the next 5-10 years. Does anyone have any further information on this? What I have heard so far includes: 144.82.162.21 (talk) 01:55, 21 February 2016 (UTC)
 * The complete demolition and rebuilding of Casement (Baldonnel) Aerodrome, excluding the runway and the new hangar, but including replacement of the tank farm
 * The purchase of up to 5 Saab Gripen aircraft, with generous terms from the Swedish company &/or Government
 * The possibility that Irish Air Corps personnel are currently in Sweden undergoing some form of training

Roundel
What design was used 1923-39? Was it the same three-colour design that's used now? Debbiesw (talk) 14:02, 31 January 2017 (UTC)
 * Good question. It seems that rather than a roundel it was three stripes in the colours of the flag, mirrored so that the green was nearest the fuselage. This marking was intially maintained on the underside of wings, even after the adoption of the 1939 roundel on the top. Searching for this also brought up the rather interesting detail that the 1939 roundel was often applied on a white square, presumably because otherwise it would have just melded into the aircraft's general camouflage scheme. Nick Cooper (talk) 11:54, 1 February 2017 (UTC)

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