Talk:Irish Council Bill

Civil service

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Firstly, compliments on this page which was missing from the period (actually had in mind to create it sometime) which I’ve linked to several of its in text titles. The "Irish civil service" link is misleading because it is simply not possible to maintain that an independent Irish civil service existed early in the 20th century. It was embodied in the UK Dublin Castle Administration, in turn aligned with the UK civil service. Scrolling the Civil service link to Ireland Civil service, it only relates to the post 1923 & ROI Irish civil service which was not operative in 1907, therefore misleading.

Further, in Civil Service of the Republic of Ireland click link: "Irish Civil Service (Transferred Officers) Compensation Act, 1929", it states "the expression "transferred officer" includes every official, civil servant, or other public servant who by virtue of any transfer of services has been transferred from the service of the Government of the late United Kingdom of Great Britain and Ireland to the service of the Provisional Government of Ireland or the service of the Government of Saorstát Eireann." The "CS of ROI" page goes on to make clear:

"This had the effect that the state became responsible for essentially all former "British civil servants" based in the new state." Click on the latter and the page "Civil Service (UK)" opens, which is all I did and is correct! Regretfully, pre 1923 even if Irish born, they were UK (British) and not Irish civil servants.

The page ‘CS of ROI’ clearly acknowledges that pre-1923 civil servants were British civil servants in the services of the Gov. of the UK of GB & Ireland, therefore not independent "Irish civil servants" as claimed. Please therefore RV the last edit, or discuss it on the talk page. Thank you for understanding. Osioni (talk) 01:42, 27 November 2017 (UTC)


 * I have created Irish civil service (pre-independence) and linked to that in both Civil Service of the Republic of Ireland and Irish Council Bill jnestorius(talk) 10:07, 27 November 2017 (UTC)