Talk:Irish Guards

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The infobox at upper right says "this is part of THE THE Irish Guards History"; I think that needs to change--? Elf | Talk 16:19, 23 Jul 2004 (UTC)

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I removed a large lump of text from the 'References' section in a revert. Here it is:

The Irish Guards [Breda June 24 1649] "You are to receive such men as shall be delivered to you on shipboard as part of a Regiment to [sic Irish?] Kings Guards, and you to command them as Sergeant Major to the said Regiment, and on your landing in Ireland ..obey..The marquis of Ormond, the Lieutenant General of the Kingdom of Ireland. For Major Edward Broughton, Major in the Kings Guard of Foot." Further April 23 1662. "And wharas we have already constituted and appointed James, Duke of Ormond to be the Govenor of our Kingdom of Ireland,...And wheras We have thought to raise within our Kingdom of Ireland a regiment of 1200 foot to be our Regiment of Guards within the said Kingdom of Ireland." Charles II. authorising Cusack's Regt to be enrolled in England after shipping from Dunkirk and the antient Spanish Flanders service of the Loyalist Regiments prior to the Restoration of 28 May 1660, being Irish the regiment of Irish Guards had to wait till 28 May 1662 before marching into Dublin. The Irish Guards are actually contained within the 1st Grenadier Guards, and by Loyal Stuart Service in The Royal Irish Regiment [sharing the Grenadier Guards Commission from Charles II above] and the 92e Regt of Infantry 'en service de France' [sharing the attempt at the Treaty of Reiswick to destroy the Stuart Succession and the Irish Guards], and also within The USS Bonhomme Richard's Marine Company [by virtue of the joint Congressional and Irish Guards Commissioning of John Paul Jones's Marine Company of Irish Guards on the 1st Bonhomme Richard, which captured HMS Serapis {Colonel Walsh Colonel in Chief}]. The 1900 Irish Guards are an Irish Guards Regt in the service of the Guelph to Windsor Dynasty of 1688. {An Irish Guards Regiment anterior to all these was eliminated in the Civil War against the English Republican Army at the Battles of Nasby and Worcester.} Please read http://hometown.aol.com/cusam2/myhomepage/index.html After some constitutional remarks contains further information on these Irish Guards based upon original sources by quotation wherever possible. Michael Patrick Cusack.

Some of this could be incorporated into the article, but I don't have the knowledge to check the sources and sort it out. SeventyThree(Talk) 17:56, 1 August 2005 (UTC)


 * This is nothing to do with the current Irish Guards regiment which was first formed as part of the Brigade of Guards in the early 20th century. Other formations may have also used the name but they should be in their own article or else the title of this one should be changed to indicate that it is not just The Irish Guards but all organizations of that name. Dabbler 18:04, 1 August 2005 (UTC)

Musical references?
The Irish-American Oi Punk group Dropkick Murphys has a song dedicated to an Irish Guard, called The Green Fields of France Asterion 21:09, 8 October 2005 (UTC)

Liberating Brussels?
Does anybody know of any truth to the fact that the 2nd Battalion were one of the first Allied forces to enter Belgium and liberate Brussels? --Chickadee2212 13:36, 10 September 2006 (UTC)
 * Yes, see http://www.g7smy.co.uk/war/?05 which almost exactly matches my father's personal memoir (he was in 2nd Bn IG). Dabbler 22:33, 10 September 2006 (UTC)
 * Thanks for that - I was trying to trace my grandfather's movements during the war (he was also in 2nd Battalion)--Chickadee2212 11:27, 14 September 2006 (UTC)

Michael Collins
No mention that the Irish Guards always displays a portrait of Michael Collins in their barracks? Pandaplodder (talk) 13:49, 22 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Reference please? Kernel Saunters (talk) 22:20, 19 November 2010 (UTC)

Lead
The stuff in the lead about recruitment in the Republic of Ireland is misleading IMHO. It is not illegal for anyone in Ireland to join the Guards, whilst the lead gives undue weigh to advertising resrictions. Should be moved to the body of the the article and out of the lead. Kernel Saunters (talk) 22:20, 19 November 2010 (UTC)

Error in Cap badge image
The Capstar of the Irish Guards shown as of today 04-May-2013 at 22:00hrs CET is incorrect..! Reason: the order was formed in 1783 and this capstar shows an incorrect date in corresponding Roman numerals......in short, there is a decade missing in the form of an ´X´. (only two ´X´are shown...when 3 are required).

Correct Roman numerals should read MDCCLXXXIII

The Capstar the Irish Guards had been granted by Royal consent of HM Queen Victoria and was derived from the Breast Star of the Most Illustrious Order of Saint Patrick,which formed part of the Crown Jewels gifted to the State of Ireland by HM King George III in the founding year....these Jewels were stolen from Dublin Castle in 1908 and to date of edit have not been found.

Many thanks (my first and maybe my only edit)

Swarfeager395 (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 20:22, 4 May 2013 (UTC)
 * This is a correct observation and the image need to be replaced with another Fair Use image. Dabbler (talk) 01:46, 6 May 2013 (UTC)

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Section on recruitment from the Republic of Ireland and UK&NI Catholics?
The word 'Catholic' doesn't appear in this article. How about a section on the topic, per sources such as this -Chumchum7 (talk) 19:08, 17 September 2018 (UTC)

Redundant
Structure:


 * Headquarters Company
 * Signals Platoon
 * Quartermaster's Department
 * Logistics Department
 * REME Light Aid Detachment
 * Catering Platoon
 * No.1 Company
 * 1 Platoon
 * 2 Platoon
 * 3 Platoon
 * No.2 Company
 * 4 Platoon
 * 5 Platoon
 * 6 Platoon
 * No.3 (Support) Company
 * Mortar Platoon
 * Recce Platoon
 * Anti-Tank Platoon
 * Sniper Platoon
 * No.4 Company
 * Corps of Drums Platoon
 * Pipes and Drums Platoon
 * Training Wing
 * 10 Platoon

Sammartinlai (talk) 15:44, 25 November 2018 (UTC)

Chris Ghika
My understanding, from the Washington Examiner, is that Chris Ghika does not use the title "Prince" publicly (see here). According to the Guardian, he is "a distant descendent of a Romanian prince". (see here). An editor has tried to insert Prince in front of his name three times. I propose we respect Ghika's wishes and don't include the title. Dormskirk (talk) 11:14, 2 May 2022 (UTC)

External link redundant/spammy
External reference 6 referencing nickname of 'Micks' goes to a page offering financial services Footnote 6: Irish Guards Regimental website Archived 8 November 2015 at the Wayback Machine