Talk:Iron (golf)

Club Collection
I have already stated this at the wood page, but I have a fairly extensive collection of golf clubs, rare, old, and new. I've been getting pics of them up. I'll try to fill out the irons page with example pics of most of the listed types of iron. I can supply modern high end forged, modern name brand cavity back, early cavity backs, early oversized cavity backs, hybrids, old blades, muscle backs, and the like. I'll be doing this within the next few days. ReignMan (talk) 04:20, 1 April 2009 (UTC)


 * If you're still around, some photos would be great! David Spector (user/talk) 14:06, 9 April 2012 (UTC)

Edit me
Username 1 (talk) 02:52, 15 April 2009 (UTC)


 * It should be noted clearly that these values are not set in stone and some of them, especially weight and lie, can very wildly, before it is inserted into the article. In addition I would cut the table down to lofts and lies only removing weight and bounce. I certainly don't think bounce should be included because there is an enormous difference between starter/game improvement clubs and those for the low handicapper/professional. wjemather bigissue 11:04, 15 April 2009 (UTC)


 * Should Length be the length of the entire club or just the shaft? I think Loft, Lie, Bounce and Length should go on this page but be more specific on Loft, Lie, Bounce, Mass/cm3 and Length on hybrid (golf), cavity-back iron, and muscle-back iron pages.

Username 1 (talk) 15:12, 15 April 2009 (UTC)


 * Loft and lie are the main two, are pretty standard across the board for different type of club, and the ones that get listed by manufacturers most often and can therefore likely be well referenced. Length (I think shaft length is what is generally quoted) is fairly standard as well, so could be included. Bounce and weight, can vary so much between models, even those of the same type, so it serves no purpose to add them as the values given will only ever be vaguely approximations. It may also be good to list the lofts from clubs 20+ years ago to show how they have generally been strengthened over time, resulting in the introduction of the gap wedge. wjemather bigissue 16:51, 15 April 2009 (UTC)


 * Having checked a few manufacturers websites, it is clear that the only things that are reasonably standard are the loft (which are actually a bit stronger than those you have listed), lie (a bit shallower) and length (which look way out). Bounce varies hugely between manufacturers and models, and is certainly not zero across the board, as you can see from these "tour" models:    Also, I meant to say before that swingweight is more important that actual weight. wjemather bigissue  21:02, 15 April 2009 (UTC)


 * Better, but there needs to be an independent source to verify the information. Maybe a magazine or newspaper article? wjemather bigissue 21:27, 15 April 2009 (UTC)

I went ahead and added the table to cavity-back iron and it appears as follows

Username 1 (talk) 21:40, 15 April 2009 (UTC)

Muscle-back iron

Hybrids

Username 1 (talk) 00:41, 17 April 2009 (UTC)


 * This is almost certainly invalid, since hybrids vary so much, with many simply being differentiated by loft angle rather than club number. Given your edits, I note that you associate the hybrid more with irons, or iron replacements, but in fact they are more like a separate type of club altogether, hence my earlier reversion of your move of the hybrid (golf) article. A great number of modern hybrids have more in common with fairway woods. wjemather bigissue 10:19, 17 April 2009 (UTC)

Lie angles?
Who wrote those lie angles? The modern ones seem to be at least 1º upright to me — Preceding unsigned comment added by Bryce bubbles (talk • contribs) 08:56, 25 May 2020 (UTC)