Talk:Iron Front

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Shouldn't we have a picture of the logo here? or maybe a page dedicated to the "Antifascist circle" I found a picture of it here -> http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/fr/9/94/StrikeAnywhere_logo.jpg

Merger Proposal
Request received to merge articles: Antifascist Circle into Iron Front; dated: {03/2017}. Proposer's Rationale: All the information on that article is present in this one anyway. Discuss here. Mooeena (talk) 04:25, 6 March 2017 (UTC)


 * I agree, merge Antifascist Circle to Iron Front. CaptainGummyBearz (talk) 22:40, 7 March 2017 (UTC)

apparent issue with leading designation
The Iron Front, which was never an actual effective militia or fighting group, was specifically anti-Communist, anti-fascist, and anti-Monarchist. The KPD, or German Communist Party, was a listed enemy of this group. I'm not sure I understand why there is controversy over clearly stating that this social-democratic initiative (with no listed accomplishments) is being called "anti-Stalinist." That's not accurate, as the distinction in Europe, and internationally, between communists and socialists was articulated in the break of Lenin and the Russian Revolution from the Social Democrats who supported their governments in WW1. This is not controversial territory, and whatever the motivations of those seeking to insert this "anti-Stalinist" claim will not find any citations, as all relevant literature will confirm that was neither the language nor intention of the proponents of the Iron Front. A citation is not needed for "anti-Stalnism" — because it's in specific reference to the three arrows in the logos design. I'm not a regular wikipedian, so forgive my lack of understanding on how to discuss these issues. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.239.220.9 (talk) 01:28, 21 August 2017 (UTC)


 * Marxists have retroactively appropriated the symbol and therefore must "red-wash" the symbol's origins. 98.169.246.47 (talk) 17:49, 23 September 2023 (UTC)

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Citation not needed for Anti-Communist. It was core to their ideology. That's what one of the three arrows targeted.
Here's one of their posters from the era:

https://i.imgur.com/ejfXQVJ.jpg

They were really obviously and vocally anti-communist. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ollie Garkey (talk • contribs) 12:10, 9 April 2018 (UTC)

Nazism/Antisemitism
If of significance: The symbol can also be seen as part of the "Jewish world conspiracy" in an image of the extremely obscene anti-Semitic exhibition "Le Juife et la France" (1940), about which no English wiki article exists so far. https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/e/ef/Bundesarchiv_Bild_183-2004-0211-500%2C_Frankreich%2C_Antisemitismus%2C_Ausstellung.jpg https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Le_Juif_et_la_France

An example of contemporary use
In Portland, Oregon: "A Soccer Game Becomes an Anti-Fascist Demonstration in Portland" (The Nation); "There is an anti-fascist rebellion brewing in the Pacific Northwest. And soccer is at the center of it." (Washington Post); "Timbers Army Plans Another Protest After Major League Soccer Issues Three-Game Bans to Fans Who Flew Iron Front Flags" (Willamette Week) -- llywrch (talk) 07:41, 8 September 2019 (UTC)