Talk:Iron Horse State Park

Style
+ txt, im, cit, so cl, rephrased; see Talk: Added text, images, citations so cleaned up and rephrased for accuracy with respect to sources. Original writing retained as much as could.

Recommendation by WP:MoS: Slashes: Avoid joining two words by a slash, as it suggests that they are related, but does not say how. Spell it out to avoid ambiguities. Also, the construct and/or is awkward outside of legalese. Use "x or y, or both," to explicitly conjoin with the inclusive or, or "either x or y, but not both," to explicitly specify the exclusive or.

Bug: "The trail west continues" sentence runs on into the iron horse image, no matter whether the image is placed following the herald image or between the two paragraphs of text. The herald need be no larger, so the two pix look good with both on the right rather than conventional alternating. Kludge: place image left.

"External Links" -> "Further reading", per MoS Further reading/external links. "Retrieved [date]", since on-line reference links can break (per Embedded links).

Sources would be very good, see Cite your sources. References I've provided may be okay for this non-technical topic, though (other than maybe such as historylink.org citations) they do not meet Wikipedia accepted sources standards. Further, the name "John Wayne Pioneer Trail" is controversial, so this may be removed at any time by any editor until WP:NPOV discussion and valid sources per above are provided. (John Wayne had little to do with this region, railroads, or with conservation.) Bug: , etc. DNF. Kludge: URL alone used for subsequent footnotes. See "Style" section in Talk:Seattle, Citing sources.

--GoDot 12:23, 27 May 2006 (UTC)

Accuracy
"Right-of-way" is more precise as well as more accurate.

The iron horse image is inexact, but the setting is similar, it is about the correct era and scale for the logging railroads that existed for which the park is named. A more topical image would be nice, whether logging or long haul.

--GoDot 12:23, 27 May 2006 (UTC)


 * Would someone copy, crop this (trim the blank top & bottom)? Mt. Si looks better with a little space above the snag at left?  The article is ready, just remove the "  ".  [[Image:seattlehistory_org Logging train at Mt. Si, 1903-05, 6966, v00-703w.jpg|300px|right|thumb|"Logging train at Mount Si, 1903-05".  Note the size of logs, particularly the bottom log behind the tender.  The image is from the original view camera glass negative.  (Copyright expired:  Printed in the U.S. before 1923.)]]     --GoDot 05:26, 29 July 2006 (UTC)

Is this appropriate?
I'm not sure whether this belongs in an encyclopedia article ... but Wikipedia is much more in depth than a lot of others, especially considering how many pages have a "pop culture references" section.

http://www.king5.com/topstories/stories/NW_092506WABbodyfoundJK.16ac04e3.html

This is a story from a local news outlet about a body that was found under mysterious circumstances in Iron Horse State Park. This is timely and topical, but will remain a part of the park's history.

So I'm of mixed opinion, and want to leave the question to the experts...?

ForrestCroce 17:38, 26 September 2006 (UTC)

Snoqualmie Pass (See Also)
I added Snoqualmie Pass to the "see also" section, because the park traverses this pass through the Cascade mountains. People with an interest in parks and recreation are generally also fans of variety, so hikers and so on may enjoy the links ... if they don't already know about one place or the other. ForrestCroce 07:29, 13 December 2006 (UTC)

John Wayne Pioneer Trail
No controversy here or POV (some people have small minds, I guess). There is a riding club named the John Wayne Pioneer Wagons and Riders Association, presumably named after John Wayne. This club was instrumental in having the State of Washington DNR acquire the right-of-way when The Milwaukee Road abandoned the lines west of Miles City, Montana in 1980. The trail was named after the club - not John Wayne, the actor - in recognition of the club's efforts. DNR transferred the property to State Parks, which created Iron Horse, but the trail name stuck. Einbierbitte 03:55, 20 June 2007 (UTC)