Talk:Ironic (song)/GA1

GA Review
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Reviewer: — Legolas ( talk 2 me ) 06:27, 14 June 2011 (UTC)

Many issues, but strong article. — Legolas ( talk 2 me ) 06:27, 14 June 2011 (UTC)


 * Non-review comment - How and why does the alternative cover pass the free-use criteria?-- CallMe Nathan  &bull;  Talk2Me   13:57, 25 June 2011 (UTC)
 * Already removed. 20:34, 30 June 2011 (UTC)

I've collapsed all resolved comments, it looks better. Now, I finally have the "music video" section:

"The music video for "Ironic" was directed by Stéphane Sednaoui. In it, Morissette appears driving a dark blue 1977 Lincoln Mark V, through a winter landscape. She plays multiple roles with multiple personalities as her passengers.

Jeremy G. Butler noted in the book Television: critical methods and applications (2002) how Morissette interacts with the watcher. He commented that unlike Britney Spears' "Lucky" music video, where Spears plays dual role of a girl named "Lucky" and her fan, and both appear together in some scenes helped by visual effects, "Ironic" does not utilize them, using solely editing, giving the sense that all the Morissettes interact with each other. Journalist Carol Vernallis also found that Morissette's "chitchat" way of singing the song creates an intimate connection viewer. She mentioned the video in her book Experiencing Music Video: Aesthetics and Cultural Context (2004), where she studied how the audience may pay attention to the lyrics of the song in a music video. Vernallis added that "Ironic" music video functions as a limited example of how the meaning of a song's lyrics become "inaccessible" when they are videotaped and televised."

But I believe that it needs a copy-edit before post it on the article. Also I found something helpful at GBooks: "In "Ironic," there is no world outside the car's windows, just the different sides of Alanis — a set of imagery that suited her self-help-language damaged songs. Morissette may have kept her clothes on for the video, but "Ironic" ..." but I cannot access to it. The book is Money for nothing: a history of the music video from the Beatles to the White Stripes, any help? Tb hotch .™ Grammatically incorrect? Correct it! See terms and conditions.  20:34, 30 June 2011 (UTC)
 * Great work, I copy-edited it a little. As for the book source, it doesn't talk much further about it, the rest goes.. "but 'Ironic' strikes a distant similarity with the previous [I guess its talking about the song where she was naked] one, both being that the central character is always the one who walks alone." You can incorporate the music video section now. — Legolas ( talk 2 me ) 06:56, 2 July 2011 (UTC)
 * Done, although I do not know if the latest should be added. Tb hotch .™ Grammatically incorrect? Correct it!  See terms and conditions.  08:01, 2 July 2011 (UTC)
 * Not needed actually seeing that it goes into the description and analysis of the other song, with "Ironic" added only as a comparison. Anyways, I'm happy to see the developments and it can pass as a GA now. Congratulations. — Legolas ( talk 2 me ) 08:17, 2 July 2011 (UTC)
 * Thak you so much for review it and make work like I used to do it months ago. Tb hotch .™ Grammatically incorrect? Correct it!  See terms and conditions.  08:19, 2 July 2011 (UTC)