Talk:Isaiah L. Kenen

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The issue of the "foreign agent registration" of Kenen receives much too weight and I am removing it.

Also, there are a number of inaccuracies, such as the dates he was registered. There is what is claimed to be a quote from his autobiography, but that is not referenced. Removing until end of discussion. Mashkin (talk) 17:20, 15 April 2009 (UTC)


 * Actually, the sources you delete are his own registration forms. His autobiography is not always faithful to events.  If you feel the need to add something, do not bull doze previous content, unless you've argued, and won, your case.NonResidentFellow (talk) 19:44, 15 April 2009 (UTC)

The significance of the issue of foreign agent registration has to be justified and it is not clear that it is worth mentioning in Wikipedia. I added two quotes from one of his books. The partial quote taken irmped was not available here http://www.questia.com/read/82262259?title=Chapter%201%20Autobiography, so I could not assess the missing words. Mashkin (talk) 10:29, 16 April 2009 (UTC)


 * Peculiar is your edit that entirely removes this information, not just the 'weight'. It is possible to dismiss 'weight' with a simple 'disclaimer-like sentence. --Shuki (talk) 21:07, 16 April 2009 (UTC)
 * The issue of "foreign agent" registration is something bureaucratic that in general does not deserve mentioning in Wikipedia. For it to be mentioned ti should have had some provable effect (that because of this registration Kenen did or could not do something meaningful). Mashkin (talk) 22:00, 16 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Huh? It is assumed that a certain element of society would like to see this person being painted as a foreign agent i.e. 'spy'. By including specifically using this term and then minimally explaining the 'dated' bureaucratic use of the term, you might be able to dismiss the ambiguity of Isaiah L. Kenen being a documented foreign agent. You recent edits clearly show that you are trying to cover something up. --Shuki (talk) 22:52, 16 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Stop the personal attacks and accusation and debate to the point. The term foreign agent has connotations exceeding its bureaucratic meaning (spy) and undoubtedly some editors are pushing for the term for that reason. But this does not mean that one has to mention that Kenen was a registered foreign agent. The nly justification for mentioning it is if it had any consequences. Mashkin (talk) 23:09, 16 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Personal attacks? Gimme a break. The issue here is a term you continue to blank using your opinion to justify.
 * Again, that is your POV opinion. The use of the term is valid and it is unclear why you are attempting to hide the use of the term that the subject of the article himself used. --Shuki (talk) 23:16, 16 April 2009 (UTC)