Talk:Isfahan province

Name
This name is almost always written Isfahan in English. The version Esfahan is just sometimes used and only by some Iranians who are not aware of the English diction of this word. So the article should be put under the title Isfahan province.


 * According to http://statoids.com/uir.html Esfahan is the standard english spelling, Isfahan is a variant. And also the ISO 3166-2 newsletter 2 spells it Esfahan (or to be more exact E&#351;fah&#257;n). andy 15:31, 25 Oct 2004 (UTC)


 * Hi,

Typing Isfahan in google gives 158.000 results, most of them western and official western sites. Typing "Esfahan" gives 54.100 results almost all of them websites made by the Iranians who are not aware of the English spelling. What you reffered to, Esfahan/Eşfahān is a transcription of the Persian word not the English equivalent of it. It's like using the name al-'Iraq (the transcription of the Arbic name) instead of Iraq in English. --Mani1 15:41, 25 Oct 2004 (UTC)


 * The google test may be right, I don't know anything about persian transliteration vs. english versions of persian names. But please don't move the article by copy-and-paste, but wait till Isfahan province gets deleted and a correct move preserving the editing history can be done. Thank you. andy 15:51, 25 Oct 2004 (UTC)


 * Moving the article by copy-and-paste is the only way I have access to at this moment. Would be nice if you do the trouble and move it in the other way. Thanks. --Mani1 15:54, 25 Oct 2004 (UTC)


 * Please do not move it by cut-and-paste - that completely snarls up the edit history. Noel 20:24, 25 Oct 2004 (UTC)

I would favour a consistent transliteration for Persian names in the Wikipedia. Whether Google and much historic material has spelled the name "Isfahan" more often than not, that romanization is Arabic-based, not Persian-based. I have just returned from three weeks in Iran, and the "official" romanization, used for instance in airports and on highway road signage, is decidedly "Esfahan". Moreover, in every dialect of Persian the vowel in the first syllable is the same as that in English mess, not miss. Evertype 12:17, 2004 Dec 5 (UTC)

It may be worth noting that universities in the province seem to prefer "Isfahan". I don't favour a "consistent" transliteration scheme if there's no real-world practice to it.142.232.51.249 (talk) 17:02, 14 December 2007 (UTC)

Page move
(from WP:RM)

Esfahan province &rarr; Isfahan province

 * The former uses a Persian transcription of that city's name instead of the English equivalent. The English name of that city is Isfahan; see Talk:Esfahan province --Mani1 16:01, 25 Oct 2004 (UTC)
 * Sounds good to me. Noel 20:29, 25 Oct 2004 (UTC)

province->Province
also see Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Subnational_entities Tobias Conradi 19:19, 6 Mar 2005 (UTC)

Could you please let me know of a naming convention that states it should be capitalised? I can't see one at the link you provided. violet/riga (t) 21:41, 30 Mar 2005 (UTC)

"County" as "Shahrestan"
I think it's better to translate "shahrestan" as county, not township. Bidabadi 13:38, 16 January 2006 (UTC)

Georgians and Armenians of Ostan-e Esfahan
I wonder if those who delete and deny the existence of Georgian and Armenian languages have ever read something on this or have ever been to there. To tell only a portion of what should be said: Shah Abbas moved many Armenians to the Jolfa of Esfahan, and to Fereydan. He also moved many Georgians to different parts of Esfahan province. Most of them lost their language, but those in Fereydan region (including Fereydunshahr, have retained thier language untill now. I advice those who are deleting this, in an unligetit manner, look further than their Californian Persian community. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Babakexorramdin (talk • contribs) 17:08, 11 February 2007 (UTC).

OK see this:

Revision as of 04:19, 14 February 2007 (edit) Babakexorramdin (Talk | contribs)

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Line 11: Line 11: |pop_density = 41.6 |pop_density = 41.6 |sub_provinces = 21 |sub_provinces = 21 - |languages= Persian, Bakhtiari, Qashqai, Georgian, Armenian + |languages= Persian, Bakhtiari, Qashqai }} }} This vandalist should be reported. Denying that Georgian and Armenian ins spoken in Esfahan province, is like to say that there is no French spoken in Cananda. The sources are still on the page. So I ask our crusaders The Behnam, Pejman, and Azerbaijani, why they do not take actions against these Fars supremacists? Babakexorramdin 16:52, 14 February 2007 (UTC)

Qashqai is spoken in the counties, Semirom, Lower Semirom and to some extent in Shahreza. Georgian is spoken in the counties Fereydan, Fereydunshahr and by Fereydani/Fereydunshahri migrants. see the many links provided. Your acts are really vandalism, as you have no excuse that there are no sources mentioned. Babakexorramdin 20:20, 14 February 2007 (UTC)

Counties
Administrative division is unreadable, a county is twice (Khomeini shahr). Then say that is 18 townships (counties?) but 21 are listed; then say that are 38 counties, wrong for sure.--88.3.135.181 (talk) 18:08, 25 July 2009 (UTC)

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