Talk:Isidor Straus

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I'm not sure why the "Fact" tags were put on this article. Had the editor actually looked at any of the references already given, they would have noticed that all facts are doubly or triply referred to in these references. -- Charlene 05:55, 20 March 2007 (UTC)

1997 Film
Why are there so many references to the Cameron film in these Titanic related articles? The film was far from an historical overview of the disaster. There is absolutely no need to mention scenes from the film in articles about actual victims. It's atrocious. Furthermore, it should be remembered that the few survivors still alive at the time of the film's release chose to boycott it. I move, therefore, to have all unnecessary mentionings of the Cameron film in articles about the event and people involved removed. --Bentonia School 17:51, 29 March 2007 (UTC)
 * If the references remain, I recommend a correction: The scene of Isidor trying to convince his wife to enter the lifeboat is not a deleted scene. I remember she says to him: "Isidor, where you go, I go."   This was not a deleted scene, unless there was a re-edit for the DVD.  206.192.35.125 (talk) 18:01, 4 June 2013 (UTC)

Racially segregated school named for Straus
An anonymous IP address editor has succeeded in deleting factual material regarding the two separate schools, using separate entrances at a New York City elementary school named for Straus. (P.S. 198 and Lower Laboratory School for Gifted Education, P.S.77.) The editor needs to explain why factual material is being deleted. The different races in different schools is public record, not a biased assertion. Gogue2 (talk) 20:55, 6 March 2010 (UTC)
 * This really is coatracky and doesn't belong – a controversy about New York school operation in 2010 has nothing whatsoever to do with a biography of Isidor Straus, who died in 1912. The school named in his memory wasn't even built until 1959 and didn't exist in his lifetime. Although factual, I've deleted it as not relevant here. However, the Village Voice reference cited does serve as a reliable source verifying that the school is named after Straus, so it should remain if only for that reason.  JGHowes   talk  22:09, 6 March 2010 (UTC)
 * Granted, the building was not made until after his death, but "hello?," we're talking about a memorial. Surely, this segregated school, as Steven Thrasher clearly documented in his Village Voice article, contravenes against Straus' memory, I his values during his lifetime.Gogue2 (talk) 10:44, 7 March 2010 (UTC)


 * What evidence do we have concerning Straus' views of racial segregation? In his lifetime, segregation was a way of life, particularly in Georgia, where he lived for a time.  For most people, it was no more offensive than "men" and "women" on restroom doors today.  We must also remember that, in the period from 1896 to 1950, the Supreme Court of the United States, on six separate occasions, upheld the constitutional validity of the doctrine of separate but equal as it relates to racial segregation in public facilities.  We must not superimpose today's views and conditions on a time period in which they have no relevance. John Paul Parks (talk) 14:03, 10 April 2010 (UTC)

New Source
The German Historical Institute in Washington, DC has published a short biographical article on Isidor Straus that can be found here: http://www.immigrantentrepreneurship.org/entry.php?rec=27 Immigrantentrep (talk) 16:04, 30 May 2013 (UTC)

Otterberg? Ottersberg? Ebersberg?  Hmmm ...
The article, in three different places, says that Straus (or Strauss) was born in Otterberg, Ottersberg, or Ebersberg.

Otterberg, Ottersberg, and Ebersberg are three entirely different cities in three different states in three different regions of Germany (in the SW, NW, and SE, respectively).

Ebersberg is indeed in Oberbayern (Upper Bavaria), but Otterberg is in Rheinland-Pfalz, and Ottersberg is in Niedersachsen.

The listed references agree that Straus (or Strauss) was born in Ebersberg.

How did Otterberg and Ottersberg get into the article?

Does anyone know of a reliable source referring to either Otterberg or Ottersberg as the place of birth?

Doc – DocRushing (talk) 20:03, 16 April 2016 (UTC).


 * The German Historical Society's article on him reads: "Otterberg, Rhenish Palatinate, Bavaria" -- thoughts? Thellomerca (talk) 18:44, 12 July 2016 (UTC)
 * The Palatinate was then part of Bavaria.--138.245.1.1 (talk) 10:41, 30 March 2020 (UTC)

Slave ownership
Under the section of "early life", it says that his family owned slaves. Clicking onto the reference it linked, I didn't find anything that backed that statement. -- Dietmilk (talk) — Preceding unsigned coment added by Dietmilk (talk • contribs) 10:01, 6 January 2023 (UTC)