Talk:Isla de Muerta (Pirates of the Caribbean)

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Could we have a translation of 'Isla de Muerta' from someone who knows Spanish (if it's in Spanish)?
 * Island of the Dead, I'll edit it in Sherurcij (talk) (Terrorist Wikiproject) 07:09, 17 January 2006 (UTC)
 * Actually, the literal translation of 'Isla de Muerta' is 'Island of Dead Woman', so it makes no sense. As said below, correct names would have been "Isla de la Muerte", "Isla del Muerto", or "Isla de la Muerta".

Wasn't one of the islands mentioned in Jurassic Park: Lost World called Isla de Muerta?


 * Muerta is the FEMININE Spanish word for "dead". That must be a mistake causen by the fact that "isla" is also feminine, so they put the two words in feminine to get some kind of coerence. I dunno, but Muerta is feminine.


 * Yep. "Muerte" is also a feminine noun ("la muerte"), but "muerta" is only used to refer to deceased beings (persons, animals or plants) of female gender. If "muerta" is intended and not a mistake, then the name of the island should be "Isla de la Muerta" ("Island of the Dead Female One"). If not, then it should be "Isla de la Muerte" ("Island of Death"). Or even "Isla de Muerte", which also translates to "Island of Death", but in a different sense. "Isla de la Muerte" implies that the island belongs to Death itself, while the second conveys something like "island where death occurs".--RicardoC 15:05, 16 July 2006 (UTC)


 * By your name, I can assume your native language is Spanish, and you're right, but that was not what I meant. But, even thought I'm not Spanish, I'm Portuguese and I know well the Spanish language. You misunderstood me; I said "DEAD", a deceased being, not "DEATH". If they wanted to say the island belonged to "Death itself", it would be  "Isla de la Muerte" (literaly what you meant) or at least "Isla del Muerto" (Island of the Dead One). I believe it is a spelling mistake, which is a common thing. Oh and by the way, you don't have to explain it in detail. I understand that most people don't know a lot about Spanish, but I only confirm something when I'm sure of it.

EDIT: Oh, I forgot to mention: Isla de Muerta =/= Isle of Death.


 * I wasn't really writing under the assumption that you didn't understand the differences between the terms and their uses :) I was mostly thinking of potential visitors with no familiarity with the language, as this is a pet peeve of mine. I know misuses of foreign languages are common in Hollywood (and misuses of English are common in non-anglo countries), but the "Isla de Muerta" thing's bothered me since I first saw the film. Not sure why, maybe because since the film is set in the Caribbean, I hoped more attention would be paid to language issues. --RicardoC 10:08, 1 September 2006 (UTC)

The correct name is Isla de la Muerte if you mean Island of Death or Isla del Muerto if you mean Island of the Dead Man

btw, i'm a spaniard from Spain

--81.202.165.175 00:52, 15 August 2006 (UTC)

FURTHER EXPLANATION: Perhaps the British accent spoken by the characters to say "Isla de Muerte" (which is at least a little closer to making sense, although there should also be the word "la" inserted before "muerte") sounded as if they were saying "Muerta", unknowing how to pronounce an "e" sound in Spanish. They certainly didn't pronounce the word "isla" with a very good Spanish accent. ("Isla" is pronounced "EES-luh" while the English-speaking actors pronounced it "EE-luh".) Therefore, I would suspect that the characters were simply mispronouncing a Spanish name with their English accents. However, I suppose if enough evidence shows that it is, in fact, "Isla de Muerta", then the name does indeed mean "Island of Dead Woman" or "Island of (Female) Dead One", despite that it doesn't seem to make much sense. Wolfdog 04:44, 27 December 2006 (UTC)

Requested move 13 July 2015

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The result of the move request was: moved. Can understand why Ed didn't understand this initially, though. Jenks24 (talk) 12:03, 21 July 2015 (UTC)

→ Isla de Muerta (Pirates of the Caribbean) – matching Isla De Muerta (Ten album), giving context to the redirect's term – 67.70.32.20 (talk) 07:40, 13 July 2015 (UTC)
 * This is a contested technical request (permalink). EdJohnston (talk) 12:42, 13 July 2015 (UTC)
 * Comment: Compare the wording of WP:PRECISE. "Usually, titles should be precise enough to unambiguously define the topical scope of the article, but no more precise than that". EdJohnston (talk) 12:42, 13 July 2015 (UTC)


 * Comment this is a redirect with an edit history. I want to displace it to a location where that edit history makes sense, instead of sitting in a location where the page can conceivably be reused for several other things (like for the album) -- 67.70.32.20 (talk) 05:26, 14 July 2015 (UTC)


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