Talk:Islamabad/Archive 1

History
This article is lacking a history section. For the ignorant reader (such as myself), Islamabad presents a number of questions, such as: is it an artificial city, why was such a small city made capital of Pakistan, what is the relationship with Rawalpindi, etc. The current article answers none of these questions. --LarsMarius 22:38, 27 December 2006 (UTC)

Islamabad اسلام آباد
"Islam-is-bad" I don't believe the name came from this

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Salam guys! I changed the name of the Pic from "Parliament House" to "Secretariat", because that's what it is. Also, added a night pic of the actual Parliament House. Waqas.usman 12:54, 26 September 2005 (UTC)

Finished fixing the grammar and spelling. Megane 16:06, 5 February 2006 (UTC)

Dear Friends ISLAM AABA'D (Islamabad) means Residence of Islam or a Place where is Islam, and Simply You can Say a City of PEACE. (PEACE (talk) 01:30, 27 March 2008 (UTC))

Too many pictures
__earth 14:06, 11 October 2005 (UTC)
 * I think showing pictures is a good idea, with all the bad repo Isloo is receiving. After all pics show Islamabad they dont show Gujranwala digitalSurgeon 09:42, 21 February 2006 (UTC)


 * There are some really good pics added now, however, some people are removing them and vandilising them. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 81.179.165.128 (talk) 21:22, 9 February 2007 (UTC).

Islamabad History
You say that one of the reasons for Islamabad's founding is that it is close to the GHQ, but you do not say what the GHQ is, or what those letters stand for. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Davidlew9 (talk • contribs) 17:40, 13 January 2008 (UTC)

Islamabad, city (1998 pop. 524,500), capital of Pakistan, NE Pakistan, just NE of Rawalpindi, the former interim capital. Construction of Islamabad [city of Islam] as the capital, replacing Karachi, began in 1960. There are light manufacturing industries. Points of interest include Pakistan House, the home of the president; the national assembly building; the National Univ.; the Grand National Mosque; and the botanical gardens. The nearby Murree Hills serve as a summer resort as well as summer headquarters for many diplomatic missions. Also near the city are the historical ruins of Taxila.

Malik Muhammad Irshad

Forested area.
Hi this article contains an inaccuracy. It is claimed that Islamabad was built on heavily forested land but that is incorrect. Islamabad was built on a what can be described as scrub land. Three million seeds were sown (not that the majority of them became actual trees) to create the green effect of today. Trees good!

Correction Needed

 * First please change the awful main picture to a high resolution one...possibly with a entire view of the city from Damin-e-Koh.
 * Second, please correct the spelling of Islamabad at the top of the picture.

Rewording
The "Tourism and Sightseeing" part reads vaguely like a travel brochure to Islamabad. I don't know enough to rewrite this section, but someone needs to.--TelevisedRevolution 07:51, 26 November 2006 (UTC)

Economy
It would be really helpful to have a section on the economy and industries of Islamabad in this piece. Karachi has a section which might serve to inspire any budding economists here, and even has a separate article on the Economy of Karachi! NB I have also added the Wikiproject Pakistan template to this article. -- TinaSparkle 22:07, 30 December 2006 (UTC)

Lal Masjid Controversy
I dont think this section should be part of Islamabad, it can come somewhere under article Lal Masjid.

Saqib —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 210.2.163.77 (talk) 09:24, 15 February 2007 (UTC).

Yes, the issue has nothing to do with the description of the city itself. It should be removed. 450w 07:08, 26 February 2007 (UTC) 450w

History
I've removed the "danyal" tribe part from the history. It's about the history of the city, not some tribe for godssake! Also, I've added a couple of citations in the History section. Akeeq 08:40, 26 March 2007 (UTC)

The acronym "GHQ" is not defined and is not clear (at least to me) from the context. I made no change. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.92.150.6 (talk) 22:40, 19 March 2008 (UTC)

Linkis missing
Pl add link after that i may recomend it for FA class.a member of wp pakistan. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 203.81.219.219 (talk) 14:19, 22 April 2007 (UTC).

Fair use rationale for Image:Pk-sindh.PNG
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Modern Islamabad
I think more should be added regarding the recent changes taking place in Islamabad. This article gives a somewhat dated picture of the city, because in the past two years it has expanded dramatically with brand new roads, a rapidly increasing population and rise in political violence. -->bandishhh 19 June 2007.

Recent edits to the Tourism and Sightseeing section may violate NPOV as they read like promotional literature. Consider cleanup in a more NPOV style --Careless hx 11:33, 30 July 2007 (UTC)

Map request
A locator map and one showing the zones and major internal features would be useful. -- Beland 16:02, 1 September 2007 (UTC)

Red Mosque
Is there not even one mention of this event? Mallerd 14:32, 8 September 2007 (UTC)

Heavy Cleanup and New List
I did some heavy cleanup on this article. It looks much better now. I moved that long list of places into a new article titled List of Notable Places in Islamabad. That article is fairly underdeveloped and could use some editing from the usual editors of this article. This article also could use copy editing, and it is definitely not a Stub, as rated by the Cities project. I suggest getting it reassessed. It however needs lost of referencing as there are currently only 2 references.  U z E E  05:21, 10 February 2008 (UTC)
 * Please don't make false Wikilinks in the name of cleanup! -- S M S  Talk 07:39, 10 February 2008 (UTC)
 * What is a false wikilink? Kingturtle (talk) 14:09, 10 February 2008 (UTC)


 * I would also like to know that?  U z E E  08:56, 11 February 2008 (UTC)
 * This as was done in this edit . -- S M S   Talk 09:59, 11 February 2008 (UTC)


 * Yes I believe I removed an unnecessary blank space (&nbsp) character from the infobox. It was pretty pointless to add it there. But Im afraid I dont get your point? What is a false wikilink?  U z E E  10:06, 12 February 2008 (UTC)
 * I told, what was done wrong! and you got it! no need to discuss it further(waste of time).-- S M S  Talk 12:44, 19 February 2008 (UTC)

Faisal Mosque picture
Why no good, big Faisal Mosque picture? It should be the main picture like it was before. It is the most prominent landmark of Islamabad. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Mik357 (talk • contribs) 22:13, 13 March 2008 (UTC)

Marriott Explosion
Is the recent explosion significant to note in this article?Mantion (talk) 15:00, 20 September 2008 (UTC)

climate
extreme maximum is not upodated. It was recorded 46.6C 4 years ago. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 78.13.78.24 (talk) 21:32, 27 September 2008 (UTC)

Article needs improvement
This article needs a lot of development to make it a FA class article and I will be working on that from now. Your contributions are welcomed, and if I make any unwikified edit, please correct me. And any other improvement that you feel like is important, mention it here. Thankyou. Marsa Lahminal (talk) 15:47, 3 November 2008 (UTC)
 * For starters, images in the 'history' section should be related to the heading, if anyone have images of under construction capital, they can place them there.
 * The 'sectors' and 'union council' sections should be placed under 'civic administration' section.
 * There should be a section of 'government and politics', since it is the capital city. All images of Secretariat and President house should be placed there.
 * A new section of 'Culture' of Islamabad should be introduced.

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Undesirable tone
Many sections of this article strike an argumentative tone, highlighting mostly positive and sometimes downright irrelevant facts. In other words, this article usually sounds like a tourist brochure. Which is hardly surprising -- I followed some of the refs, some of which actually are tourist brochures, and there was apparently a bit of cut-and-paste. I think some revisions to the actual content of this article are needed, with special attention to NPOV guidelines. Kiyura (talk) 01:33, 22 February 2009 (UTC)

Reply to comments on the article
There were many comments regarding the general tone, material, references, images, and other issues about the article.

The tone has been considerably changed and all the advertisement/travel guide style is removed. Reliable references (those from Official sites, authentic research work) have been added. There were some comments regarding the history section and relation with the twin city Rawalpindi, that too have been added and fixed.

As for the images, there is a lack of good high quality media for the topic on Wikipedia. Only a few images are worth adding and I have added them with the respective sections. Please note that encyclopedic article necessarily does not need a plethora of images. So refrain from adding useless images such as monkey in Islamabad and house in Islamabad.

And last, regarding the recent war on terror. Please note that the war in the FATA region has got nothing to do with Islamabad as a city. As for the terrorism in the area (Marriot bombing, Lal Masjid issue), I will add them as a reference in recent history section. However, their details should be added to the respected articles, not here.

Thank you. Samar ( Talk  .  Contributions ) 16:26, 12 September 2009 (UTC)

Population
The population(s) given in this article are inaccurate. The population in the infobox (1,875,000) do not match the intro (673,766). And the combined population of Islamabad/Rawalpindi is 4.5 million in the article but if you goto List of most populous metropolitan areas in Pakistan, the two add up to around 3.5.

I am not Pakistan expert but wanted to bring the issue to light in case anyone has any insight.--NortyNort (talk) 14:03, 12 January 2010 (UTC)


 * Noted. There are some discrepancies in the sources but will be taken care of. Regards. Samar  ( Talk  .  Contributions ) 15:13, 18 January 2010 (UTC)

Please understand that the second largest ethnic group in Islamabad after Punjabis is Pashtun. Sindhi are not visible in the city at all... so please change based on solid information. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 58.27.230.115 (talk) 10:41, 3 June 2015 (UTC)

The population is given with almost 2 Mio in the article. CIA world fact books states 1.365 Mio in 2015. Are there *good* sources for the 2 Mio number? (No, not some tourism agency or newspaper of low reputation). --denny vrandečić (talk) 17:26, 9 March 2017 (UTC)

bin Laden
I just added a source for the bin Laden killing; however, I'm not so sure it belongs here, in this article. It certainly doesn't belong in it's own section. For instance, Kennedy's assassination doesn't get its own section in Dallas. So, suggestions on where to move it (or possibly even remove it entirely) are welcome. Qwyrxian (talk) 04:16, 2 May 2011 (UTC)

Early History
Hello, I have a problem with this sentence in the Early History section of the article...

"Some of the earliest Stone Age artifacts in the world have been found on the plateau, dating from 500,000 to 100,000 years ago."

Shouldn't the small number of years be quoted first? As in: "...dating from 100,000 to 500,000 years...". I have changed it to how I think it should read. If anyone thinks or knows that I am wrong then please change it back, I won't be offended. I am fairly pedantic :). SpencerCollins (talk) 11:45, 4 May 2011 (UTC)


 * Can we add a Citation needed to this please? To the stone age tools from 100-500kya?


 * Ganpati23 (talk) 02:02, 29 December 2014 (UTC)

Sister cities
The reference of Abu Dhabi is ""Twin towns of Minsk". © 2008 The department of protocol and international relations of Minsk City Executive Committee. Retrieved 2008-12-08." This doesn't sound like a good reference for the twin towns of Islamabad. I don't speak Belarussian, and so can't say anymore of it, but I guess something is wrong here. K9re11 (talk) 10:55, 10 July 2015 (UTC)

Outdated
The governance of Islamabad has, apparently, undergone something of an overhaul in late 2015. According to sources, a Mayor and City Council, forming the Islamabad Metropolitan Corporation (IMC) have been elected for Islamabad. Admittedly, the local government's power is limited, and the IMC is still subject to override by the CDA chair.

The issues are complex, and more than I am able to quickly sort out, but some sources to consider include:



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Zones and Sectors
Seems to be written wrong. Please refer to Capital Development Authority website and link here of the map which gives an overview. There are 5 zones in the Islamabad Capital Territory region. Zone I and Zone II are open for urban development and government institutes and hence "Islamabad City". Zone III includes Margalla Hills National Park and Rawal Lake. Zone IV and Zone V are rural/unorganized developments. I've added Sectors of Islamabad to this article as I'll be expanding on each sector with its own article. --PAKHIGHWAY (talk) 17:27, 28 January 2018 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 28 February 2019
In demographics section azad kashmir word has been used which is very venomous to come across. u r the most authentic source for 125 crores Indians, so its humbly and very kind request to replace this with POK or Kashmir only 59.178.86.51 (talk) 11:38, 28 February 2019 (UTC)
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Semi-protected edit request on 5 September 2019
Paragraph 5 in article introduction : change "Islamabad is a beta-global city" to "Islamabad is a gamma-global city".

Source: https://www.lboro.ac.uk/gawc/world2018t.html 31.165.92.191 (talk) 19:28, 5 September 2019 (UTC)
 * ✅. El_C 19:29, 5 September 2019 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 25 September 2019
Respected Wikipedia team, with due respect i'm writing a request to notify you about few invalid links that no longer exists on this page. These links were updated long time back that are no longer useful for the users. These links should be replaces with fresh and useful content that is useful to the users. The details are as follows: "Please change Pakistan Stock Exchange in line no.80 in Reference Section with Emerging investment in real estate on Islamabad because the link is talking about rates of stock exchange which is irrelevant to the topic of this article". "Please change Pakistan Educational Statistics 2008-2009 in line no.95 in Reference Section with Current investment opportunities in Islamabad because when someone is searching about Islamabad he/she is willing to see the information about overall Islamabad not about overall country". "please change function of major department in line no.104 in Reference Section with Latest Property for sale in Pakistan (Islamabad) because the link refers to role of department in Pakistan which is irrelevant to the topic". MArslan12223 (talk) 06:41, 25 September 2019 (UTC)
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Coordinate error
The following coordinate fixes are needed for

—119.160.119.95 (talk) 13:55, 7 November 2019 (UTC)
 * You haven't explained what you think is wrong with the coordinates in the article. I've tweaked them a bit, but if you still think that there is an error, you'll need to provide a clear explanation of what it is. Deor (talk) 19:08, 7 November 2019 (UTC)