Talk:Islamization of Palestine

Proposal to merge
I propose this article be merged with Muslim history in Palestine. There's little reason to have such a stand alone article. Palestine wasn't the only place Islamized by Muslims. Neighbouring Egypt, Syria, Jordan etc. were all Islamized, but it those Islamizations are explained in articles such as History of Muslim Egypt, Muslim conquest of the Levant etc. And Palestine wasn't only Islamized, it has also be Judaised. Yet we don't have an article on Judaisation of Palestine.

Ironically, much of this article is about the absence of Islamization of Palestine, as it refers to the absence of Muslims, not their presence.VR talk  04:33, 22 February 2013 (UTC)


 * I concur with this old suggestion; all of the content of this article is practically already covered by that one. Can anyone present a case what it contributes to keep this article? TrickyH (talk) 15:29, 16 March 2016 (UTC)

While I don't disagree with a merge, I strongly doubt your intentions, considering the laughable suggestion that there should be a "Judaization of Palestine". Judaism, Samaritanism, and Ancient Canaanite religion are the native religions of Palestine.--Monochrome _ Monitor  19:10, 26 August 2016 (UTC) The merge is not instrument to delete content that you don't like either do a proper merge or AFD the article if you think it shouldn't exist.--Shrike (talk) 06:17, 12 July 2017 (UTC)

removed paragraph
I removed:
 * The 10th-century Arab geographer from Jerusalem, Al-Muqaddasi stated in his writings that in Jerusalem at the time there were almost no Muslims: “The mosques are empty and the Muslim holy books are not taught. Most of the population of Jerusalem are Jews and Christians who feel like the lords (of the land) and behave with insolence.”

Reasons: (1) The source seems to be a polemic with little case for reliability. (2) The source does not appear to contain this quotation at all. As far as I can tell, the only mention of Muqadassi is on page 145: "In the tenth century the Arab writer, Mukadassi, complained about the predominance of the Jewish population in Jerusalem." (3) A standard translation of Muqadassi has it differently: "Everywhere the Christians and the Jews have the upper hand; and the mosque is void of either congregation or assembly of learned men." (Palestine Pilgrims Society, "Description of Syria, including Palestine, trans. Guy le Strange, p 37). This is quite different. (4) Neither version is about Islamization so what is it doing here anyway?  Zerotalk 16:42, 29 March 2014 (UTC)
 * Regarding (4), I can see how it would be relevant. At some point Palestine went from having no Muslim population to being majority Muslim (and it didn't happen overnight after the Battle of Yarmouk). The quote speaks in part to the question of when and how those demographics changed. Archaeo5000talk 21:46, 4 April 2015 (UTC)
 * The quote is fake, as I documented. Muqadassi does not say that Muslims were a minority, he is just griping about the political power of the Jews and Christians. Writers of the Crusades soon afterwards made it very clear that most people were Muslims. Zerotalk 05:09, 5 April 2015 (UTC)

Unsupported Text on Arab immigration into Palestine
The introductory text on Arab immigration is not supported by the main body of the article. Its magnitude or significance is therefore unknown and might well be non-existant or trivial (such as nomadic Bedouin Arabs crossing the borders). Inserting such unsupported text into the introduction so as to avoid a source reference is either inadvertent, or is bad-faith editing. In either case it should be removed if not supported by justification and reliable source(s). Awaiting 'Talk' discussion, otherwise deletion will follow. Erictheenquirer (talk) 09:56, 4 February 2017 (UTC)