Talk:Israel–Hezbollah conflict (2023–present)

Edit request - change to "11 civilians killed in Israel"
Please change in the infobox from "10 civilians killed in Israel" to "11 civilians killed in Israel". Source used is source 38. Guy Haddad 1 (talk) 10:49, 1 June 2024 (UTC)


 * The numbers are updated Waleed  (talk) 02:52, 21 June 2024 (UTC)

Evacuated parts of northern Israel on the map
I would recommend changing the color of the dashed line to something that contrasts more with the blue, if possible. Alternatively I suggest coloring the area a different shade or striping it. Evaporation123 (talk) 19:23, 11 June 2024 (UTC)


 * https://www.newsweek.com/us-issues-warning-israel-lebanon-border-1912323 this source mentions that 200k israelis have been deplaced from northern israel Waterlover3 (talk) 14:53, 13 June 2024 (UTC)
 * @Waterlover3, I've added the updated number Waleed  (talk) 02:49, 21 June 2024 (UTC)

Edit request - add an updated number of deplaced people
https://www.newsweek.com/us-issues-warning-israel-lebanon-border-1912323 this source mentions 200k israelis have been evacuated from northern israel since oct 8th i think its best we add this number rather 96k from all the way in december 2023 Waterlover3 (talk) 11:22, 17 June 2024 (UTC)


 * Done Waleed  (talk) 02:48, 21 June 2024 (UTC)

IDF casualties
What happened to IDF casualties? They used to stand at 21 dead, now its 19. Has there been a revision towards lower death toll? Gorgedweller (talk) 12:24, 22 June 2024 (UTC)

Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 23 June 2024
add Yahya Sinwar to Commanders and leaders section as Hamas is in the Belligerents section and he is the leader of Hamas 173.72.3.91 (talk) 03:20, 23 June 2024 (UTC)
 * Red information icon with gradient background.svg Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. M.Bitton (talk) 18:43, 26 June 2024 (UTC)

Change the nb of casualties
The Israeli Representative to the UN announced that 150 Israeli Soldiers were killed and 15.000 were wounded on the northern front InfiniteValrath (talk) 02:23, 27 June 2024 (UTC)


 * source please? Waterlover3 (talk) 09:30, 27 June 2024 (UTC)
 * https://x.com/lironza/status/1804549664693199140?s=46 At around 40 seconds from the account of the consul general of Israel Slicer2101 (talk) 14:50, 27 June 2024 (UTC)
 * can we get this updated plz - 150 deaths and 15k injured. seems accurate as it was 2k causalities from the first 2-3 months before northern hospitals stopped reporting
 * https://x.com/lironza/status/1804549664693199140?s=46 Shawarma313 (talk) 07:02, 28 June 2024 (UTC)

Edit request - change 19 soldiers killed to 18 soldiers killed
Hi, in the casualties it says: "19 soldiers killed (3 non-combat)". Please change it to "18 soldiers killed (3 non-combat)", as this is the number used in the refrenced article.

In the description of the amount of Israeli soldiers casualties the article is being cited as:

"Fifteen soldiers and a local security officer have also been killed in attacks claimed by the Hezbollah and Palestinian Islamic Jihad terror groups on the border with Lebanon since the fighting started... The military's list also includes a soldier killed by friendly fire in the West Bank, a soldier killed due to malfunctioning ammunition on the Lebanon border, two soldiers killed in a tank accident in northern Israel, and a number of other deadly incidents amid the war but not directly related to the fighting."

But the "soldier killed by friendly fire in the West Bank" part isn't relevant to this article (and also covered by another wikipedia article here).

Additionaly, I suggest shortening the added description only to the relevnat parts:

"Fifteen soldiers and a local security officer have also been killed in attacks claimed by the Hezbollah and Palestinian Islamic Jihad terror groups on the border with Lebanon since the fighting started... The military's list also includes ... a soldier killed due to malfunctioning ammunition on the Lebanon border, two soldiers killed in a tank accident in northern Israel"

Guy Haddad 1 (talk) 09:58, 27 June 2024 (UTC)


 * you lost all credibility when you said "Palestinian Islamic Jihad terror groups" Waterlover3 (talk) 11:54, 27 June 2024 (UTC)
 * They're quoting this article  Chomik!  ( talk? ) 13:29, 27 June 2024 (UTC)
 * This is the quote that already appears in this wiki article, not something that I wrote. Guy Haddad 1 (talk) 07:59, 28 June 2024 (UTC)
 * I think the number includes the security officer killed. I clarified that in the infobox. Chomik!  ( talk? ) 14:11, 27 June 2024 (UTC)
 * Are you sure? As I understand it, there are 15 soldiers and security officers that have been killed in combat. In addition, there are 3 that were killed due to non-combat incidents (but related to the Hezbollah-Israel conflict).
 * Anyway, thank you for the clarification that tou have made. Guy Haddad 1 (talk) 08:05, 28 June 2024 (UTC)

Edit request - update Hezbollah and allies casualties
Hi, there are some mistakes in Hezbollah and it's allies casualties:


 * 1) Please change in Lebanon from 389 to 289 Hezbollah members. Reason: According to the source - "total death toll of Hezbollah fighters to 350". Reducing the 61 killed in Syria results in 289 not 389 (probably a typo).
 * 2) Please change "450 Hezbollah members" to "350 Hezbollah members", for the same reason.
 * 3) Please change "18 civilians killed in Syria" to "15 civilians killed in Syria". Reasons: Source 36: "since the war on Gaza in October ... two civilians dead" for 2023. Source 37: "13 civilians ... dead" for 2024. Together it sums up to 15.

Guy Haddad 1 (talk) 09:27, 30 June 2024 (UTC)

Name change?
In the inevitable event of an all out Israel lebanon/hezbollah war, would it be better to rename to war instead of conflict? DeadlyRampage26 (talk) 13:45, 2 July 2024 (UTC)

Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 2 July 2024
add July 2024 section to events as July has began and this conflict is still ongoing 173.72.3.91 (talk) 20:01, 2 July 2024 (UTC)

Already done PianoDan (talk) 21:47, 3 July 2024 (UTC)

Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 2 July 2024 (2)
Hezbollah CLAIM their death TOLL is 359 (latest), the source (l'orient) claims 450 which ONE IS TRUE? 2A00:23C8:180E:EE00:30A5:AD39:AF36:CDE (talk) 20:58, 2 July 2024 (UTC)

Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. PianoDan (talk) 21:47, 3 July 2024 (UTC)


 * I’m not asking for changes asking for verification since numbers of Hezbollah killed is different to that of what has been listed 450. Hezbollah have not claimed 450 have been killed but 365/366. So both can’t be right. Or be listed 365/366-450 killed as such in casualties box. 2A00:23C8:180E:EE00:68AF:96E8:F5A2:9220 (talk) 21:47, 10 July 2024 (UTC)

should this be included in the Header?
Recently, Anthony Blinken, current American secretary of state has made the following statement:

The inability of Israelis to return to settlements and homes in the north of the country led to Anthony Blinken stating that Israel had effectively "lost sovereignty in the northern quadrant of its country".

someone as high up as Blinken saying that Israel has effectively lost soveriegnity over the Northern quadrant of Israel is, quite frankly, huge. However, adding this right away to the header could be controversial, so I wanted to ask here first Genabab (talk) 23:56, 6 July 2024 (UTC)

Trim units involved?
The "Units involved" section of Template:Infobox military conflict is getting a bit out of hand in my opinion. Its detail makes it long, and it's probably still far from comprehensive. It also adds a lot of sources, some of questionable reliability, that we wouldn't otherwise need.

The infobox docs say: When there is a large number of participants, it may be better to list only the three or four major groups on each side of the conflict, and to describe the rest in the body of the article.

Should we limit it to just "top level" militaries, such as Hezbollah, the IDF, and IRGC? Or is there some middle ground that would keep a bit more detail but not too much? — xDanielx  T/C\R 16:20, 8 July 2024 (UTC)

Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 10 July 2024
Hezbollah death toll (Kia) is 365/366- according to their figures. can someone please tell me why it’s at 450 (l’orient reference) has that been verified at all. THANKS 2A00:23C8:180E:EE00:68AF:96E8:F5A2:9220 (talk) 21:42, 10 July 2024 (UTC)
 * Red information icon with gradient background.svg Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. – macaddct1984 (talk &#124; contribs) 14:14, 14 July 2024 (UTC)

Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 19 July 2024
Hezbollah death toll should be changed to 372 killed. 450 have not been killed nor verified. hezbollah have not confirmed not posted 450 killed as such by l'orient. 109.144.22.45 (talk) 20:33, 19 July 2024 (UTC)
 * Red information icon with gradient background.svg Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. Left guide (talk) 22:41, 19 July 2024 (UTC)