Talk:Israfil

Is Israfel same as Raphael (archangel) -Tydaj 04:57, 26 July 2005 (UTC)


 * Well spotted &mdash; that certainly looks likely; I've asked the same question at Talk:Raphael, and suggested a merge. --Mel Etitis ( &Mu;&epsilon;&lambda; &Epsilon;&tau;&eta;&tau;&eta;&sigmaf; ) 09:15, 26 July 2005 (UTC)


 * No, they are two separate figures in the relevant literature, and come from very different Hebrew roots. Israfel comes from SRP, or "burning," from which we also get the word "Seraphim," and he is commonly associated with music and the trumpets of judgment.  Raphael comes from a word that means "healing," and is a significant aspect of his role in the Book of Tobit.  Any suggested equivalence would need to be sourced in order to indicate precisely what subset of the lore equates them - a merge would be wholly inappropriate.  ◄   Zahakiel   ►  23:29, 10 August 2007 (UTC)


 * That couldn't be more clearly stated. Perhaps a brief para. on the source of the confusion, if there really is any?--Wetman 23:42, 10 August 2007 (UTC)

It is interesting though that in the Baha'i Writings, the two concepts are mentioned together, "In this day if anyone liveth in accord with the heavenly teachings and instructions, he shall become a spiritual physician to the world of humanity and the trumpet of Israfel to quicken the dead...." `Abdu'l-Bahá - Tablets of Abdul-Baha Abbas, p.387-390

Query
I've never heard of an Ayat or Hadith that describes the physical features of Israfil in Islam. Citation is required. 143.167.244.151 (talk) 17:55, 21 December 2012 (UTC)
 * A source is given, Gustav Davidson's Dictionary of Angels. Digging up my old copy, he cites the abridged edition of the Encyclopaedia of Islam, who would have ultimately gotten it from a source text by a Muslim (but not necessarily an Ayat or Hadith, though that does not change the fact that it is an Islamic belief about Israfel, even if it is not a universal belief). Ian.thomson (talk) 18:26, 21 December 2012 (UTC)
 * Right although there are No Hadith and Ayat regarding the appearance and physical features of Israfil but there are books that describes it. Britannica also has an article on it see here and check the references too. -- Ibrahim ebi (talk) 13:49, 22 December 2012 (UTC)

Israfil/Israfel is the alternate name of Uriel - one of the four Archangels in Judaism
I added to this article that (Israfil/Israfel) is the alternate name of the Archangel Uriel for the Jewish people. Fighting evil (talk) 19:04, 18 February 2015 (UTC)

"Israfil" Used Just for the Sound by Poe?
This should be corrected--it is clear that Poe used the figure of Israfil not just for its sound, because he also uses the traditional attributes of this angel in his poem. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.60.7.34 (talk) 19:25, 2 March 2015 (UTC)

Etymology?
Is anything known about the etymology of the name? Jimw338 (talk) 16:49, 18 June 2019 (UTC)