Talk:István Szabó

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The whole "developing story" segment is poorly written. Poor grammar, and I cannot really understand what the issue is. I suggest changing this into an "ongoing event." Anyone with better knowledge of the story care to re-write/improve? - Darkhawk (19 Mar 2006 @ 12:48)

It requires some background knowledge to understand the whole situation. It will be a long article if all of the components would get explained in details. Please read the wikilinks provided within the article. I've added some new ones. And no, it's not an event, it's a story. Lajbi 12:48, 19 March 2006 (UTC)


 * I have added ongoing event and quality standards tags to the article. Regardless of a need for "background knowledge," the article still requires some clarification.  I am aware of the difficulties of translating into English, but there has been enough North American coverage of the issue that someone must be able to fill in details.  As i said, I am not familiar enough with the story, and the googlenews articles I can find all briefly gloss over the whole issue.  He's making a movie based on it?  Who was the endangered friend?  I am leaving ongoing event because they haven't resolved how to react yet.  Can't he go to prison now?  - Darkhawk (19 Mar 2006 @ 23:54 EST)


 * Glad you're interested so. It's a question of reputation in Hungary. Someone who has been an undercover internal agent and gets discovered does also get disgraced morally. He is maybe the only one yet (because there are hundreds of former hidden agents still living) whose career survived that secret of their past. It is not punished with a sentence to jail in Hungary. He isn't announced that he has a film script about it on his mind. It was a coincindence (or a planned unveiling??) that this news and the Annual Film festival took place at the same time. Also there was a movie premiere of his at the show, but of a film with mainly different plot. There was a threat/chance of gettin boo-ed out, when making an acceptance speech on the stage, so that's why it is important it all came out good at the end (and also the Hungarian Prime Minister defended him at his presentation opening speech). Oh I almost forget : the endangered friend was simply a classmate of Szabó 50 years ago. He is slightly known in Hungary but not in international terms. Lajbi 10:24, 20 March 2006 (UTC)


 * Yes, but this seems very related to the here and now. I agree it's a very serious allegation and may dog Szabo like Kazan's collaboration did. But really until a steady historical opinion is formed, don't you think that there should be more focus on his four decades of films (which have won an Oscar and awards at Cannes and Berlin, among others) rather than focussing all this attention on a scandal that may or may not be remembered over the course of history by the international community (I'm sure the Hungarian reaction will be different, but this is the international version of Wikipedia, not the Hungarian one). Personally, I think this is a footnote. A damning footnote, yes, but not one that should dominate 50% of the director's write-up.AndrewJamesHorton 05:21, 9 May 2007 (UTC)

Huge success
„On 1 February 2006, Szabó's latest movie Rokonok (Relatives) was a huge success...”

???? So I know, this movie was a flop in Hungary, and in other countries. I saw Rokonok, and I think was really bad movie, far from Szabó's best works. 188.157.111.214 (talk) 09:48, 26 June 2010 (UTC)

Proposing major edits
I’m considering doing some major edits on this article, and I just wanted to notify any interested parties in advance, in case anyone has any thoughts.

1. I think the whole article could be expanded with much more detail, especially about his films. I haven’t done any research on him in a long time, but I would imagine there’s plenty of material to draw from. Also there are other aspects of his career that could be included; I believe he’s worked as a film producer and an opera director, at least.

2. I’d like to add something about his notability to the introductory text.

3. I’d like to make some changes to the structure of the article, making it more like other biographical articles I’ve seen in Wikipedia. For example, I’d create a Career section, and reserve the Life (or Personal Life) section for childhood, family etc. I’d leave Politics as its own section or fold it into the Life section.

4. I think there could be a separate list of awards.

Hopefully I will get around to this sometime in the foreseeable future.

Hirschjoshua (talk) 04:22, 3 May 2011 (UTC)

OK, now that I've done it, and just read the article on conflict of interest, let me point out that 4 of the 48 citations are to my own book chapter on Szabó. This is my first major contribution to Wikipedia, so I'm still learning the ropes. Hopefully I've managed to maintain a neutral point of view even while citing my own work.

Currently creating a more detailed film(and TV)ography. Then I need to improve some of the sources, such as Hungarian Wikipedia, which obviously doesn't meet Wikipedia's standard of reliability as a source.Hirschjoshua (talk) 05:34, 2 September 2011 (UTC)

Neglected to explain edit of 22:37, 10 September 2011: Added more detail to discussions of Father, 25 Fireman Street, Budapest Tales, Confidence, and Sunshine. Improved some wording.Hirschjoshua (talk) 22:44, 10 September 2011 (UTC)

Spy?
(see categories) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 193.224.79.1 (talk) 11:41, 11 July 2016 (UTC)

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